Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Seblu, > Our scripts are not written POSIX compatible (i.e they rely on more > tools than the standard). Do you still know people writing POSIX > compatible scripts nowadays (students excluded)? Yes, lots of projects that target Unix systems, not just Linux, stick to POSIX for their build

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 12:41:26 +, Ralph Corderoy wrote: >Arch users may be producing code for non-Arch, non-Linux, systems. Happy New Year! Pff! Bash is the most used login shell for Linux for good reasons. Sometimes I like it faster, hence I like to use dash, sometimes I like portability to

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
> Linux isn't POSIX, period! I think Linux and its userspace (musl and glibc) try the hardest to be POSIX. Don't they get the first implementations of new POSIX APIs, compared to Darwin or the BSDs?

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
> Actually I wasn't interested to reply at all, I'm just curious about > information related to POSIX vs Linux, IOW I'm interested in learning > by reading, but it's a broken thread. Maybe you would like this: https://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html http://www.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 15:50:24 +, Neven Sajko wrote: >http://www.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html Thank you :)!

Re: [arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
I assume you did not hear about the following: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64892

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 1/4/20 9:56 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 12:41:26 +, Ralph Corderoy wrote: >> Arch users may be producing code for non-Arch, non-Linux, systems. > > Happy New Year! > > Pff! Bash is the most used login shell for Linux for good reasons. > Sometimes I like

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:33:19 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >Who said anything about System V init? Why would System V init be >needed for portability? Running startup scripts by using run levels isn't that uncommon outside of Linux.

[arch-general] FOSDEM: Arch Linux hackathon, Jan 30 - 31

2020-01-04 Thread Jerome Leclanche
Hi list, The Arch Linux team is organizing two full-day hackathons on January 30th and 31st in Brussels, the two days before FOSDEM (https://fosdem.org/2020/). Lunch and drinks will be provided, and other activities such as board games are on the menu for the later hours / evenings. If you are

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread SET via arch-general
Le samedi 4 janvier 2020 16:50:24 CET Neven Sajko via arch-general a écrit : > http://www.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html Thank you very much. Your 'echo' insight and fundamentals highlight differences between professionals and amateurs like me !

[arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Piscium via arch-general
Hi, I use a customised version of xf86-input-evdev (I tweaked the source code to better support my trackball). This package is now broken as xorgproto used to provide resourceproto and scrnsaverproto but the current version does not provide it anymore. I suppose somebody will fix this broken

Re: [arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Piscium via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Neven Sajko wrote: > > I assume you did not hear about the following: > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64892 Thanks. Yes, I had seen that, but that bug is closed and if there is an answer in it to my question above I don't know what it is. The xf86-input-evdev

Re: [arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Piscium via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 21:27, Piscium wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Neven Sajko wrote: > > > > I assume you did not hear about the following: > > > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64892 > > Thanks. Yes, I had seen that, but that bug is closed and if there is > an answer in it to my

Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage

2020-01-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:33:19 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >The thread started on arch-dev-public; replies on arch-general occurred >when members of the community wished to discuss the matter as well. >Hope that helps. :) Hi Eli, yes, it's helpful ;). Regards, Ralf PS: I prefer

Re: [arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Lone_Wolf
On 04-01-2020 22:27, Piscium via arch-general wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Neven Sajko wrote: I assume you did not hear about the following: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64892 Thanks. Yes, I had seen that, but that bug is closed and if there is an answer in it to my question

[arch-general] Zstandard for local user build packages - Was: [arch-announce] Now using Zstandard instead of xz for package compression

2020-01-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 20:35:55 -, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Robin Broda wrote: >our package compression scheme has changed from xz (.pkg.tar.xz) to >[zstd(.pkg.tar.zst)] Hi, what needs to be done to build local .pkg.tar.zst packages? If I build local packages, they are still

Re: [arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency

2020-01-04 Thread Piscium via arch-general
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 21:45, Lone_Wolf wrote: > The proper solution is to file a bug to have the package makedepend on > xorgproto . Done. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/65052

Re: [arch-general] FOSDEM: Arch Linux hackathon, Jan 30 - 31

2020-01-04 Thread Ram Kumar via arch-general
Wow nice, but too bad i am in India :( On Sun, 5 Jan 2020, 12:06 am Jerome Leclanche, wrote: > Hi list, > > The Arch Linux team is organizing two full-day hackathons on January 30th > and 31st in Brussels, the two days before FOSDEM (https://fosdem.org/2020/ > ). > > Lunch and drinks will be