Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Tobias Hunger via arch-general
Hi Neven, On Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 23:58 Neven Sajko via arch-general, < arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote: > One thing that I should have said right away is that one can not know > in advance when and which executable he will need to debug. > Clear Linux uses a daemon installed in the client to

[arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
Hello, Why is it that makepkg strips symbols by default, and many packagers even make extra effort to get packages stripped; instead of building with "-g"? Even Go software, which by Go's design makes use of debugging symbols at run time had been stripped as far as I remember (although it seems

Re: [arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why?

2020-01-21 Thread Mr.Elendig
On 20/01/2020 17:16, Matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: Hi, I am getting sound with the tarch image, but when trying to install, I get the 404 errors. HTH. Matthew Try a different mirror. https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/ https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 1/21/20 3:21 PM, Neven Sajko via arch-general wrote: > Hello, > > Why is it that makepkg strips symbols by default, Because Arch Linux's default vendor options for makepkg.conf include the optional strip option. > and many packagers > even make extra effort to get packages stripped; instead

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
> There is no "even", here. The golang programming language is not > *atypical*, it should not receive abnormal treatment. > > I'm not sure what you men by "design makes use of debugging symbols at > runtime". They're debug symbols, not runtime logic symbols. Golang (and libbacktrace) use DWARF

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
One thing that I should have said right away is that one can not know in advance when and which executable he will need to debug.

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Neven Sajko via arch-general
Regarding the firefox example, are the split debugging symbols files publicly available?

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 1/21/20 5:44 PM, Neven Sajko wrote: >> There is no "even", here. The golang programming language is not >> *atypical*, it should not receive abnormal treatment. >> >> I'm not sure what you men by "design makes use of debugging symbols at >> runtime". They're debug symbols, not runtime logic

Re: [arch-general] Why are Archlinux packages stripped of (debugging) symbols?

2020-01-21 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 1/21/20 6:00 PM, Neven Sajko wrote: > Regarding the firefox example, are the split debugging symbols files > publicly available? Mozilla's symbol server is described here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Using_the_Mozilla_symbol_server#Downloading_symbols_on_Linux_Mac_OS_X --