Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread u34
u...@net9.ml wrote: > David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > > Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut? It used to be > > included in systemd-sysvcompat > > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but > > seems like it recently got removed. Was it removed

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread u34
David Rosenstrauch wrote: > Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut? It used to be > included in systemd-sysvcompat > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but > seems like it recently got removed. Was it removed upstream? (And if > so, anyone know

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread mick howe via arch-general
ArchLinux devs found a much more convoluted, obfuscated method of starting the system and setting it up "read to use". Goes with unreadable logs, etc My recollection was that telinit was a mechanism to tell init to change run level such as change from run level 3 (to put it crudely - normal

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Kusoneko
On August 17, 2020 2:53:10 AM UTC, mick howe via arch-general wrote: >ArchLinux devs found a much more convoluted, obfuscated method of >starting >the system and setting it up "read to use". Goes with unreadable logs, >etc I think you mean systemd here, I think the only thing arch linux devs

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 2020-08-16 3:37 pm, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: On 8/16/20 3:24 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 2020-08-16 3:20 pm, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: Reread the Arch commit. It wasn't removed. Arch used to move the symlink from the "systemd" package to the "systemd-sysvcompat"

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 8/16/20 9:30 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > There's no need to be rude.  I didn't ignore your email, and I snipped > it from my response for brevity's sake to spare the list from > unnecessary sprawl. There is no ambiguity here. You suggested that this change causes Arch to deviate from

[arch-general] AUR - Best Practices when Package no longer Supported for Linux upstream but LTS fine?

2020-08-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Arch devs, Quick AUR question. The virtualbox 5.2 branch is unsupported as of July 2020. Oracle continues to put out testbuilds for 5.2, but currently it does not build with 5.8 (LTS is fine). I am still awaiting answers on the vbox-end-users list as to whether anything compatible will be

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Christian Hesse
David Rosenstrauch on Sun, 2020/08/16 14:59: > On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut? It used to be > > included in systemd-sysvcompat > > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but > > seems like it

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut? It used to be included in systemd-sysvcompat (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but seems like it recently got removed. Was it removed upstream? (And if so,

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 8/16/20 3:24 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 2020-08-16 3:20 pm, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> Reread the Arch commit. It wasn't removed. >> >> Arch used to move the symlink from the "systemd" package to the >> "systemd-sysvcompat" package, and no longer does so. > > Not sure I

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 2020-08-16 3:20 pm, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: On 8/16/20 2:59 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut?  It used to be included in systemd-sysvcompat

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 2020-08-16 3:06 pm, Andreas Bosch wrote: Am 16.08.20 um 20:59 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut?  It used to be included in systemd-sysvcompat [...] I looked into this a bit more, and it looks

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Andreas Bosch
Am 16.08.20 um 20:59 schrieb David Rosenstrauch: > On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut?  It used to be >> included in systemd-sysvcompat >> [...] > > I looked into this a bit more, and it looks like this was not an > upstream

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-16 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 8/16/20 2:59 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 2020-08-15 2:53 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut?  It used to be >> included in systemd-sysvcompat >> (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but >> seems like it