Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] KDE 4.8.0 hits [testing]

2012-01-28 Thread Morris
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 01/27/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: Welcome! Thank you! (2) One smallish potential problem zone on laptop is the new power applet - profiles are gone and it is no longer possible to choose a

Re: [arch-general] [AUDIO] Terrasoniq phase X64 - ice1712 - configuration

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 03:32 +0100, Lars Madson wrote: Hi Archers, I just received that external sound card, Terrasoniq Phase X64. It seems to be supported in the kernel using module ice1712. I've been reading about how to make it work in the last days. the closer I've been to see it was

Re: [arch-general] [AUDIO] Terrasoniq phase X64 - ice1712 - configuration

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 09:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 03:32 +0100, Lars Madson wrote: Hi Archers, I just received that external sound card, Terrasoniq Phase X64. It seems to be supported in the kernel using module ice1712. I've been reading about how to make

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:50:09AM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:35 AM, G. Schlisio g.schli...@gmx.de wrote: Am 28.01.2012 00:26, schrieb G. Schlisio: Hi all, i used to keep a folder in

Re: [arch-general] root not remounted rw

2012-01-28 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Quoting Tom Gundersen (2012-01-26 13:12:16) On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Vic Demuzere v...@demuzere.be wrote: On 26 January 2012 12:43, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Anyway, what's the explanation for this behavior? Is / only mounted (and remounted) ro by default? I guess

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
Heiko, Maybe I (or others) were unclear in our explanations, but at least you should have had a look at the software you are claiming to be buggy (you would quickly see that there is no problem). On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: for as long as i remember

Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD help

2012-01-28 Thread John K Pate
Yes been there but all that happens is i get a load of failed deps one of which it seems cannot be satisfied and all 32 bit stuff this is a 64 bit the PKGBUILD mentions 64 bit but goes for 32 bit the fails also complains about google-earth.install is missing so i dont know where to

[arch-general] Wine 1.3.37-1.1

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) regarding to the fixmes I googled You can ignore these, they are harmless, but I didn't found information about the error(s). [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ WINEARCH=win32 winecfg wine: created the configuration directory '/home/spinymouse/.wine' fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share

[arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about are all out of date and have so many deps that are also out of date it is like chasing your own tail up your own backside I have looked at the AUR

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:21:01 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: well, i can't say i care much about the FHS either. IMO, systemd/pulseaudio work fantastic, and are orders of magnitude better than their predecessors, and only move the ecosystem forward. i also make extensive

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:24:47 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Maybe I (or others) were unclear in our explanations, but at least you should have had a look at the software you are claiming to be buggy (you would quickly see that there is no problem). Again, PulseAudio which Lennart

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about are all out of date and have so many deps that are also out of

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 28.01.2012 14:24, schrieb Karol Blazewicz: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about are all out of date

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread John K Pate
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 +, Peter G Nikolic wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about are all out of date and have so many deps that are also out of date it is like

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 28.01.2012 15:05, schrieb Peter G Nikolic: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Again, PulseAudio which Lennart Poettering likes to have as a standard completely doesn't work with (semi-)professional audio cards with an ice1712 chip. Yes, I had a look at PulseAudio. Have you tried after this fix was

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Kwpolska
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: PulseAudio On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 14:02 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:21:01 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: IMO, systemd/pulseaudio work fantastic, and are orders of magnitude better than their predecessors, and only move the ecosystem forward. No,

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 15:24:42 Kwpolska wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 28.01.2012 15:49, schrieb Peter G Nikolic: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 15:24:42 Kwpolska wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Jesse Jaara
2012/1/28 Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com: Ok on the multi lib   that done now   if i try makepkg -si  it asks for the password but i am unable to enter a password it will not accept entry  from the keyboard In linux entering your password on the console doesn't display chars

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) I also haven't set up sudo, anyway, the dependencies are listed at the AUR page. It was build here, but it doesn't run. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15270 First of, you need the [multilib] repo, add it to your pacman.conf. Second of, you need to get the ld-lsb package

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ cat .googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4f2415fa.txt Major Version 6 Minor Version 2 Build Number Build Date Jan 23 2012 Build Time 17:11:07 OS Type 3 OS Major Version 3 OS Minor Version 2 OS Build Version 2 OS Patch Version 0 Crash Signal 11 Crash Time 1327764986 Up

[arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
I have just updated the system  now on kde4.8 but all i get is kmix and a white screen noting else works at all  even that took 12 mins to  come up       (ps the update was a normal pacman -Suy ) Pete   (sent from webamil on the lappy cus main machine is futzed )

Re: [arch-general] [AUDIO] Terrasoniq phase X64 - ice1712 - configuration

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:23 +0100, Lars Madson wrote: Usb 2 is supported since kernel 2.6 Yes, I'm using USB 2, but the vendors don't use plug'n'play conventions for their USB 2 audio interfaces. You need a USB driver written for your audio interface.

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Jesse Jaara
Did you remeber to install lib32-nvidia-utils ??? -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. ( ) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:09:30 +0100 schrieb Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: Have you tried after this fix was released: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-lib.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3906a93072171e5b5f4000d4a228af4eb8fa253? Like I've written in another e-mail in this thread: And, no, artificially

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
Well it seems no help then it seems parts are working parts are not  so how do i set about  uninstalling KDE 4.8 and reverting to the previous working version  or is 4.8 the new viersion now if so it has problems Pete . --- On Sat, 28/1/12, P NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote:

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 28.01.2012 17:35, schrieb P NIKOLIC: Well it seems no help then it seems parts are working parts are not so how do i set about uninstalling KDE 4.8 and reverting to the previous working version or is 4.8 the new viersion now if so it has problems Pete . --- On Sat, 28/1/12, P

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
Hi .. It seems for some strange reason the Hard disk may be full  well the / partition at least si the install may not have completed  now have to think about this one  see if i can resize the / partition i have space on /home  need to shrink that and extend / good fun .. not . Pete . ---

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 28.01.2012 17:49, schrieb P NIKOLIC: Hi .. It seems for some strange reason the Hard disk may be full well the / partition at least si the install may not have completed now have to think about this one see if i can resize the / partition i have space on /home need to shrink that and

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise PA, ... And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that Windows

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 05:29:51PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: And, no, artificially crippling a (semi-)professional audio card down to stereo with a strange ALSA configuration is not a solution for this. And, no, it's not ALSA's fault like Lennart Poettering says, it's PulseAudio's fault. If

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Stefan Wilkens
2012/1/28 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de: Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise PA, ... And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That doesn't mean that

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so. It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels). Users of such cards don't need or want PA, so

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: If you use such cards you probably have Jack running, and if you really want PA you can configure it as a Jack client. For what it's worth, PA and Jack have a protocol to peacefully coexist. So, if you use Jack, even if

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:24:07PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: If PulseAudio was generally only optional and if its developers wouldn't try to declare it as a standard, I just wouldn't care. It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on specific desktop junk trickling down into

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:22:05 +0100 schrieb Stefan Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com: Does this really need to be rehashed yet again? This isn't arch related yet these PA back and forths keeps popping up in the mailboxes of all the registered people looking for arch-related content. I didn't

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:34:32 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on specific desktop junk trickling down into even basic system components and plain apps. And that's a problem. This should be changed again. And it's

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
yes i appologise for the top posting i have nothing in that way of mail clients running postiong via yahoo's web mail system and it does not allow me to bottom post very sorry for the un needed hassles i hate top posting my self  many appolagies to the list . Thanks i will give it a try  i

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: My impression recently was that there are a lot of people doing and inventing a lot of things on their own which has almost nothing to do with any Linux standards, particularly again Lennart Poettering, and that some

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread Timothée Ravier
Le 28/01/2012 18:41, P NIKOLIC a écrit : It seems for some strange reason the Hard disk may be full well the / partition at least si the install may not have completed now have to think about this one see if i can resize the / partition i have space on /home need to shrink that and

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 17:39 +0100, G. Schlisio wrote: Am 28.01.2012 17:35, schrieb P NIKOLIC: Well it seems no help then it seems parts are working parts are not so how do i set about uninstalling KDE 4.8 and reverting to the previous working version or is 4.8 the new viersion now

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
It would be nice to have a sandbox, a list to discuss things like this. I guess non of those is the right place: http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo So a last note by me, then I'll be quiet. On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 17:29 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:09:30 +0100

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:20 +0200, Jesse Jaara wrote: Did you remeber to install lib32-nvidia-utils ??? :D Thank you, no I didn't install lib32-nvidia-utils. I need to reboot and will try again. - Ralf

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: If Lennart would either fix all those issues in PulseAudio and systemd, so that they would really work for everybody and would really bring advantages for everybody or at least no disadvantages, or if his software

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread Ross Hamblin
On 29/01/12 06:41, P NIKOLIC wrote: yes i appologise for the top posting i have nothing in that way of mail clients running postiong via yahoo's web mail system and it does not allow me to bottom post very sorry for the un needed hassles i hate top posting my self many appolagies to the list

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: If you use such cards you probably have Jack running, and if you really want PA you can configure it as a Jack client. For what it's worth, PA and Jack have a

Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch now

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
Hi Tim   . Glad i am not the only one   , I have a spare drive  i am thinking of moving  /usr to it  see if it will work like that .. Pete . --- On Sat, 28/1/12, Timothée Ravier sios...@gmail.com wrote: From: Timothée Ravier sios...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arch-general] Another Major glitch

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:24:07 +0100 Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 + schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org: PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so. It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the the comlete

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 12:37 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote: dear Lennart and co., make sure that your software is 100% optional and free of dependencies in either direction. signed, Your Friends in the Community Dear my Friends in the Community, PA already is optional. Please test

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: For what it's worth, PA and Jack have a protocol to peacefully coexist. So, if you use Jack, even if  PA is installed and running, PA will move out of the way

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: Please please please not again!!! PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone cares about pro audio solutions which are a nightmare to configure. PA goes far beyond you KDE/gnome to embedded systems

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: Please please please not again!!! PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone cares about pro audio solutions which are

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Ben Tartsa
Thanks. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: Please please please not again!!! PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone cares about pro audio solutions

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:29:28 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: Please please please not again!!! PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone cares about pro audio solutions which

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what you need. It is definitely not what some others need. Because noone cares about pro audio solutions You mean

Re: [arch-general] Google earth

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:20 +0200, Jesse Jaara wrote: Did you remeber to install lib32-nvidia-utils ??? Works like a charm! Only when I closed it, there was much output [snip] Another crash happened while handling crash! During usage there where no messages. I suspect for the OP, the

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:14:47 -0600 schrieb Leonid Isaev lis...@umail.iu.edu: PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. That may be exactly what you need, but not what we need. Otherwise we all could stick with Windows. You can read your e-mails and write some letters with

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:37:14 -0600 schrieb C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: is this roughly message you want to send? No, this is not the message, and I guess you totally misunderstood me. The problem is that PulseAudio is not working with every sound and audio card, but users are forced to

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:46:20PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: There has been a lot of changes lately, this is true. However, a lot of effort has been put into reaching consensus between the distros and the relevant upstream projects. Much more so now than before. It is my impression that

Re: [arch-general] PulseAudio again (was: change in mount behaviour?)

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:25 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what you need. It is definitely not what some others

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:40 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: One consequence of all these changes is dependency creep. Just one example: emacs depends (via gconf) on consolekit. I've been using emacs for 15 years or so, and I've never seen it depend on PAM or Kerberos, SSH authentication

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:40:51 + Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:46:20PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: There has been a lot of changes lately, this is true. However, a lot of effort has been put into reaching consensus between the distros and the

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:37:37 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:40 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: One consequence of all these changes is dependency creep. Just one example: emacs depends (via gconf) on consolekit. I've been using emacs for 15

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:41:06PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/NEWS.23.2 This doesn't provide any reason why emacs should depend on consolekit for its functionality. It only says it depends on gconf to find out a 'default font', and that you can opt out at

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Jan Steffens
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:40 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: One consequence of all these changes is dependency creep. Just one example: emacs depends (via gconf) on consolekit. I've been using emacs for 15 years or

[arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread P NIKOLIC
Hi . Well still fighting it  how does one go about putting /usr on a seperate drive  i can not seem to get it right just complains about /usr mounted unable to e2fsck cannot continue and falls to maintenance mode  i cant unmount the drive because it contains /usr how do im get rount that one

Re: [arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM, P NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi . Well still fighting it  how does one go about putting /usr on a seperate drive  i can not seem to get it right just complains about /usr mounted unable to e2fsck cannot continue and falls to maintenance mode 

Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?

2012-01-28 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Jan 29, 2012 3:29 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:30 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: For what it's worth, PA and Jack have a protocol to peacefully coexist. So, if you use Jack,

Re: [arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 23:59:29 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM, P NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi . Well still fighting it how does one go about putting /usr on a seperate drive i can not seem to get it right just complains about /usr mounted

Re: [arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 23:59:29 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM, P NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi . Well still fighting it  how does one go about putting /usr on a

Re: [arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
On Sunday 29 Jan 2012 00:44:02 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 23:59:29 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM, P NIKOLIC p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi .

Re: [arch-general] New PC and data copying -- am I doing this right?

2012-01-28 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 1/27/12, atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/27 C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Thanasis Georgiou sakisd...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 January 2012 20:37, Kwpolska kwpol...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a new PC. I'm going to get it a bit later, I

[arch-general] audio gone west

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
Hi .. Well getting almost back to rights now but i now have no audio using an external usb soundcard that was working fine before the KDE update wreaked havoc Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0102 C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like Sound Device Device Descriptor: bLength18

Re: [arch-general] audio gone west(SOLVED)

2012-01-28 Thread Peter G Nikolic
On Sunday 29 Jan 2012 00:41:34 Peter G Nikolic wrote: Hi .. Well getting almost back to rights now but i now have no audio using an external usb soundcard that was working fine before the KDE update wreaked havoc Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0102 C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like

[arch-general] Arch ILOM on a Sun Fire X4100

2012-01-28 Thread Robert Wall
Hi guys! I have the opportunity to get a sweet deal on a Sun Fire server to replace my somewhat-antique workstation. Most of the hardware looks like pretty standard stuff (AMD Opterons, standard RAID 0/1, SAS drives, etc.), but there's something that's throwing me. Sun apparently has something

Re: [arch-general] /usr on a seperate drive

2012-01-28 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 17:53, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.comwrote: On Sunday 29 Jan 2012 00:44:02 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 23:59:29 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan