[arch-general] Re: [Bulk] Re:RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 29/04/12, Patrick Lauer wrote: In my opinion, if I have to start hacking random C to add or adapt features (which happens as soon as the builtins do the wrong things - that's about twice a year for me) it'll be a lot more crashy than a simple shell script where I add one line of code.

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:12:15 -0500 C Anthony Risinger wrote: yeah ... i'm a C novice, and i'm pretty sure i can write a stable init ... that's kinda the point. init is so incredibly dumb that it requires no code. is that really what unix philosophy is meant to convey? so little code and

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Gour
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:51:42 +0100 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Heck, I save my documents as .txt for secondary backup purposes. I wish I knew that when I was a teenager doing work for school at 3AM and Word lost everything spectacularly well. Heh...similar lesson when I was

[arch-general] Reliable documents (was Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch)

2012-04-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200 Gour wrote: we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc. To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or something else.

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re:RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:22:42 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: In my opinion, if I have to start hacking random C to add or adapt features (which happens as soon as the builtins do the wrong things - that's about twice a year for me) it'll be a lot more crashy than a simple shell script

Re: [arch-general] Reliable documents (was Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch)

2012-04-30 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
2012/4/30 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200 Gour wrote: we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc. To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or something else. Sorry if I jump in, but as a LaTeX user I usually suggest to stay away from

Re: [arch-general] Reliable documents (was Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch)

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 13:35 +0200, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: 2012/4/30 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200 Gour wrote: we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc. To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or something else. Sorry if

Re: [arch-general] Reliable documents

2012-04-30 Thread Gour
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:55:48 +0100 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or something else. As LaTeX 'front-end'. your servant, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa -- One who is able to withdraw his senses from sense objects, as

Re: [arch-general] Reliable documents

2012-04-30 Thread Gour
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:43:19 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Keep in mind that blind people can't read nice formated documents on braille, they anyway need to read the source code ;). Whatever...I found that when working on non-technical texts, LaTeX markup takes away

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Monday 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 Gour wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:51:42 +0100 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Heck, I save my documents as .txt for secondary backup purposes. I wish I knew that when I was a teenager doing work for school at 3AM and Word lost everything

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:59:02 +0530 Jayesh Badwaik wrote: You are very correct, master documents should always be plain text. The generated documents can be binary however. Also, there should be a fallback system where the plain text documents are used rather than binary documents so that

Re: [arch-general] Reliable documents (was Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch)

2012-04-30 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 30 April 2012 17:35, Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/30 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200 Gour wrote: we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc. To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or something

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Auguste Pop
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:59:02 +0530 Jayesh Badwaik wrote: You are very correct, master documents should always be plain text. The generated documents can be binary however. Also, there should be a fallback system

[arch-general] Lyx (was Re: Reliable documents (was Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch))

2012-04-30 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 04/30/12 at 09:16pm, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 30 April 2012 17:35, Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/30 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200 Gour wrote: we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc. To get the benefit of your

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch

2012-04-30 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: What's the point. To me that's just adding an extra redundant layer that could have bugs. I see no point using binaries for configuration whatosever. RAM is crazy fast and some SSDs are now as fast as a PIIIs ram.