Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Devon Sawatzky
As Gaetan pointed out, it is not the job of Linux distribution maintainers to decide country names. But it seems to me this whole issue is not really about deciding what to name a country as that decision has already been made by many. The fact is simply that the data being used does not accurately

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-02 12:33:17 +0800] albertsong: > But please kindly put yourself in our shoes, what would you feel when you > try to download iso image of ArchLInux, > and find out the name of you're country has ", Province of China" fallowed > by it? Thanks but I already understand the issue. Honestly,

Re: [arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome

2012-07-01 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 1 July 2012 22:17, Clemens Buchacher wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to bring to your attention the discussion surrounding > gnome-shell/networkmanager bug #679212 (NetworkManager VPN secrets: > NetworkAgent internal error): > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679212 > > A fix for this

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names >> are just removed from the official mirrorlist. > > I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be liste

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread albertsong
I could totally understand that you think this is none of your business. But please kindly put yourself in our shoes, what would you feel when you try to download iso image of ArchLInux, and find out the name of you're country has ", Province of China" fallowed by it? You know there's no offense, i

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-02 10:52:27 +0800] Zero, Chien-An Cho: > That being said, let's continue to have a constructive conversation. :) No. This is a Linux distribution; deciding what countries should be called is just not what we do. Our website uses the django country list; please direct any complaints there.

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Zero, Chien-An Cho
Well... Given the action taken by some developers in this thread, I can't imagine what will happen if we take this issue to the maintainer privately. I understand there is no insult intention by everyine, but by using that word, it IS offending. I am not asking everyone to be educated about our h

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:49:46 -0400 Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread 魏銘廷
I am the reporter of FS#30444, and I've filed and patched a bug of a little project with the identical problem: If you are using iso-codes from extra repo, there is a common name of “Taiwan, Province of China” which is named “Taiwan”. And by using that, “Taiwan, Province of China” and “Venezuela, B

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
Do never remove any mirrors from the mirrorlist! Acturally, if a Taiwan user tries to connect a China mirror, the connection is really really slow. The same as Hong Kong or Macau, although they belong to China. If you remove any mirror from the mirrorlist, only trouble will be brought to the use

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 10:51, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names >> are just removed from the official mirrorlist. > > I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be listed under > the

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Andrew Hills
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names > are just removed from the official mirrorlist. I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be listed under the country name "Confederate States of America". Un

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 09:47, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang wrote: >> Gimme a break. These kind of political issues aren't solved by "taking >> it upstream". Since when are politicians or people under the influence >> of politics known for their outstanding adherence to lo

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > Gimme a break. These kind of political issues aren't solved by "taking > it upstream". Since when are politicians or people under the influence > of politics known for their outstanding adherence to logic and reason? > It's not such a simple tech

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/07/12 05:49, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: >>> On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: Hello, First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have >>

Re: [arch-general] cpufreq stopped working

2012-07-01 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 11:10:07 -0400 Martin Zecher wrote: > Thanks a lot for your help Leonid. > > I don't know if this list allows attachments, so I better send you a link: > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/208940/journalctl > Please report it to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ because this is something s

[arch-general] CUPS not recognizing the printer

2012-07-01 Thread Serge Hooge
Greetings all, I have an HP LaserJet M1132 hooked via a USB port. It worked quite fine until my recent -Syu, where it suddenly stopped working. Since I had hplip upgraded, I assumed I have to reinstall the printer, so I removed it via the CUPS webinterface and right now I can't seem to get it inst

Re: [arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome

2012-07-01 Thread Ionut Biru
On 07/01/2012 11:17 PM, Clemens Buchacher wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to bring to your attention the discussion surrounding > gnome-shell/networkmanager bug #679212 (NetworkManager VPN secrets: > NetworkAgent internal error): > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679212 > I'm using m

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 01 Jul 2012 21:23 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > >> been using ArchLinux for years, deplo

Re: [arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM, BlissSam wrote: > > Not every thing news will report! > > For example every time that virtualbox-modules upgrades it will say, 'please > reload all the modules or reboot to take the changes'. Will this be in the > news? > > Also, if some packages upgrades and req

[arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome

2012-07-01 Thread Clemens Buchacher
Hi, I'd like to bring to your attention the discussion surrounding gnome-shell/networkmanager bug #679212 (NetworkManager VPN secrets: NetworkAgent internal error): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679212 A fix for this particular bug is under way. The cause for the bug was Arch Li

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: >> Hello, >> >> First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have >> been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm >> not joining the community unti

Re: [arch-general] [alsa][hda-intel] Not able to loopback sound between line-in (mic) and speakers / line-out (head phones).

2012-07-01 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Javier Vasquez wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using a HP EliteBook 8540w laptop. It comes with following audio card: > > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset > High Definition Audio (rev 05) > Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device

Re: [arch-general] Issues after upgrades

2012-07-01 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/01/2012 07:42 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list, everything was working smooth on my box. After a bunch of upgares today, I have some issues when I *startx*: Below is my pacman log: [2012-07-01 15:29] Running 'pacman -Syu --ignoregroup texlive-most --ignore texlive-bin' [2012-07-01 15:

[arch-general] Issues after upgrades

2012-07-01 Thread Arno Gaboury
Dear list, everything was working smooth on my box. After a bunch of upgares today, I have some issues when I *startx*: Below is my pacman log: [2012-07-01 15:29] Running 'pacman -Syu --ignoregroup texlive-most --ignore texlive-bin' [2012-07-01 15:29] synchronizing package lists [2012-07-01 1

[arch-general] [alsa][hda-intel] Not able to loopback sound between line-in (mic) and speakers / line-out (head phones).

2012-07-01 Thread Javier Vasquez
Hi, I'm using a HP EliteBook 8540w laptop. It comes with following audio card: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1521 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 54

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 01 Jul 2012 23:08 +0800, Zero, Chien-An Cho wrote: > Hello, > > First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm > not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the > ArchLinux webpages (ex

Re: [arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
Not every thing news will report! For example every time that virtualbox-modules upgrades it will say, 'please reload all the modules or reboot to take the changes'. Will this be in the news? Also, if some packages upgrades and require you to add yourself into a certain group (I mean the older

Re: [arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread John K Pate
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 00:56:24 +0800 BlissSam wrote: > And what I also want to say, the message should not be printed too often > unless a really really important package is upgraded (such a bootloader or > something else). > Or if the message is printed EVERY time upgrading the system, no one wil

Re: [arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
Yes, that is true. I had a bad experience half a year ago, so I wrote this mail here. And what I also want to say, the message should not be printed too often unless a really really important package is upgraded (such a bootloader or something else). Or if the message is printed EVERY time upg

Re: [arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 07/01/2012 06:40 PM, BlissSam wrote: Hi, Every arch user may experience such a situation--after a system upgrade, the system is totally unusable. That is neither the problem of that upgrade, nor the user. In fact, during the upgrading process some important warnings (such as `please reinsta

[arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
Hi, Every arch user may experience such a situation--after a system upgrade, the system is totally unusable. That is neither the problem of that upgrade, nor the user. In fact, during the upgrading process some important warnings (such as `please reinstall your bootloader', or `please reload t

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-07-01 Thread Victor Silva
2012/7/1 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/19 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > >> 2012/6/15 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/15 Don

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-07-01 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/19 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/18 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > 2012/6/15 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >> >>> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Vict

Re: [arch-general] cpufreq stopped working

2012-07-01 Thread Martin Zecher
Sorry, I forgot to say that already tried booting directly into console (without nvidia). On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Martin Zecher wrote: > Thanks a lot for your help Leonid. > > I don't know if this list allows attachments, so I better send you a link: > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/208940/j

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread 逸冰欧阳
I agree with you, guys. Although I come from China. On Jul 1, 2012 11:24 PM, "BlissSam" wrote: > > Hello, > > I am a Simplified Chinese user with 2 years of arch experience > (of course I am not joining the community), > but I agree with your opinion. > I don't want ArchLinux to repeat the way th

Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread BlissSam
Hello, I am a Simplified Chinese user with 2 years of arch experience (of course I am not joining the community), but I agree with your opinion. I don't want ArchLinux to repeat the way that Red Hat used to go (Red Hat used to call Taiwan 'Taiwan, province of China', and many people refused to

Re: [arch-general] cpufreq stopped working

2012-07-01 Thread Martin Zecher
Thanks a lot for your help Leonid. I don't know if this list allows attachments, so I better send you a link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/208940/journalctl On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:37:39 +0100 > Leonidas Spyropoulos wrote: > > > On Jun 30, 201

[arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues

2012-07-01 Thread Zero, Chien-An Cho
Hello, First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the ArchLinux webpages (ex. Downloads, Mirror Status) is really offending Taiwanese people. I wo

Re: [arch-general] Help with pm-suspend

2012-07-01 Thread Manne Merak
On 06/30/2012 06:28 AM, Randy wrote: Hello All, I'm seeing a strange issue when I suspend my system. If I suspend using either the command: "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend" or running "pm-suspend" as