Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thursday 26 Jul 2012 05:13:39 Damjan wrote: > > If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr > > superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved out > > of /usr, not moved in. > > well no > the point is to have a single top-level directory for

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

2012/7/26 David Benfell > Hi all, > > On 07/25/2012 01:52 PM, David Benfell wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >>> > Then create a service file in > /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service > > [unit] description= David's Network Se

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

Am 25.07.2012 21:22, schrieb brainwor...@lavabit.com: > Hello, folks > > Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process > of installation and configuration of arch linux. > > I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anything > incorrectly. > > First. Ab

[arch-general] fish 2.0.0b2 in [community-testing]

As you probably know, fish release available in [community] is very old. Code hasn't been updated since 2009. Official website doesn't work currently, but there was the info that development is stalled. Alex Søndergaard suggested switching to Ridiculous Fish' fork[1]. It provides almost identical

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:30:06PM -0400, brainwor...@lavabit.com wrote: > >> If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr > >> superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved > >> out > >> of /usr, not moved in. > > > > well no > > the point is to

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:18 AM, David Benfell wrote: > > [Install] > Alias=sys-subsystem-net-devices-lan0.device.wants/u.net.static at > lan0.service > > I see that %I is supposed to stand for eth0; how do I connect this > with eth0? i modified it for you here: http://dpaste.com/775539/plain/

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Aitor Pazos wrote: >> >> Right, because /sbin/init isn't binary and none of the scripts relied >> on a interpreter that wasn't binary code? > > They are indeed, but it's a matter of size. The size of /sbin/init is 40.592B > and /usr/lib/systemd/systemd 866.576B, w

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

> > Right, because /sbin/init isn't binary and none of the scripts relied > on a interpreter that wasn't binary code? They are indeed, but it's a matter of size. The size of /sbin/init is 40.592B and /usr/lib/systemd/systemd 866.576B, which is a huge difference. Init responsabilities are much m

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Regrettably, due to some overzealous spam filtering in my Thunderbird configuration and elsewhere, I'm just finding C. Anthony Risinger's suggestion: [Unit] Description=[u] Static Interface [%I] StopWhenUnneeded=true Wants=network.target Befo

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM, wrote: If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved out of /usr, not moved in. >>> >>> well

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 13:01 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > >>> If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr > >>> superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved > >>> out > >>> of /usr, not moved in. > >> > >

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM, wrote: >>> If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr >>> superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved >>> out >>> of /usr, not moved in. >> >> well no >> the point is to have a single top-level directory for

[arch-general] Was Re: [arch-dev-public] [mkinitcpio][RFC] a better fallback image?

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Dave Reisner wrote: >>> > As an alternative/addition, which has also been brought up before, why >>> > don't we build in the most basic of modules? I'll bet we can cover at >>> > least 50% of the use cases b

[arch-general] [Solved] Re: pacman and corrupt packages

On Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 11:15:48 AM Krzysztof Warzecha wrote: > 2012/7/25 Ike Devolder : > >> That is an option I have not yet tried but I just want to preserve the > >> reproduction and debug the problem if there is any. > > Maybe this will help: > > cd /var/lib/pacman/pkg > for pkg in *; do bs

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

>> If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr >> superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved >> out >> of /usr, not moved in. > > well no > the point is to have a single top-level directory for a single purpose. > > so distribution provided fi

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things should be moved out of /usr, not moved in. well no the point is to have a single top-level directory for a single purpose. so distribution provided files will go to /us

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, On 07/25/2012 01:52 PM, David Benfell wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> Then create a service file in /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service [unit] description= David's Net

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Aitor Pazos wrote: > Hi everyone! > > My experience with systemd is a +1 as well. I use it in my laptop and it > provides a nice experience for a desktop user. Starting services on demand, > suspend support and all other features gives a nice experience for an end

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

> I beleive its a question of > > How is the filesytem structure and its distributed nature/capabilities > relevant today > > i.e the need for /bin or /lib even. If everything is to end up in /usr, then I'd argue that this makes /usr superfluous. If merging is to be done, then IMO things shoul

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:19:59AM +0800, Ken CC wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:48:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I laugh away this trouble. > > Is there any information about the advantages of lib -> usr/lib? > > anyone likes to answer this question? > > > > -ken I beleive its a que

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:19:59AM +0800, Ken CC wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:48:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I laugh away this trouble. > > Is there any information about the advantages of lib -> usr/lib? > > anyone likes to answer this question? > > > > -ken this was the thread

Re: [arch-general] lib -> usr/lib

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:48:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I laugh away this trouble. > Is there any information about the advantages of lib -> usr/lib? anyone likes to answer this question? -ken

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:05:37 -0400 schrieb "Stephen E. Baker" : > This DAEMONS array is nice, one of the things I like about Arch, but > it is specific to Arch not SysV. If you run Gentoo, or others you > won't have something like that, you'll have a program that arranges > symlinks, not entirely

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/25/2012 03:47 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Can you not find the space to create images or dumps, so that you > can try again if need be. Or do you have a massive root partition. > It's pretty big. And I'm a starving and unemployed (Ph.D.) studen

Re: [arch-general] Skype locks up my system, not even sysrq keys work

On 25-07-2012 23:20, SanskritFritz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:49 PM, SanskritFritz > wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Mauro Santos >> wrote: >>> There are reports that the uvcvideo module needs to be loaded with >>> nodrop=1 in order to get things to work smoothly, do search

Re: [arch-general] Skype locks up my system, not even sysrq keys work

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:49 PM, SanskritFritz wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Mauro Santos > wrote: >> There are reports that the uvcvideo module needs to be loaded with >> nodrop=1 in order to get things to work smoothly, do search in the >> forums, I believe I saw something about t

Re: [arch-general] Skype locks up my system, not even sysrq keys work

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Mauro Santos wrote: > There are reports that the uvcvideo module needs to be loaded with > nodrop=1 in order to get things to work smoothly, do search in the > forums, I believe I saw something about this there. I can't believe that I did not find this valuable i

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

> check if root is /dev/sda in /etc/fstab and you > may need /var, /usr too) > > > /bin/dd if=/dev/sda bs=32k | /bin/gzip > /home/dave/sda-backup.gz Oops, autopilot check if / is /dev/sda1 /dev/sda is whole disk which will likely take ages without clonezilla. -- ___

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

Hi everyone! My experience with systemd is a +1 as well. I use it in my laptop and it provides a nice experience for a desktop user. Starting services on demand, suspend support and all other features gives a nice experience for an end user. > Maybe it's just my idea but I think the system is

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

> Thanks! I will be testing this (and a few other things) just as soon > as I work my courage up to try a reboot. I know you're supposed to > test one thing at a time. This situation doesn't really allow that. :-/ Can you not find the space to create images or dumps, so that you can try again if n

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

Welcome ;) On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:22:43 -0400 (EDT) brainwor...@lavabit.com wrote: > Hello, folks > > Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process > of installation and configuration of arch linux. > > I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anyt

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> >>> Then create a service file in >>> /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service >>> >>> [unit] description= David's Network Setup Wants= >>> network.target Before= network.target >

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

Hi, I'm in a hurry to work so I will try to be the most clear but succint possible, forgive any typo then :) "[...]So if I do not have installation guide previously printed on paper, I just become consused what to do next.[...] But for the present I would like at least to have installation guide i

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

On 07/25/2012 01:49 PM, brainwor...@lavabit.com wrote: >>> And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of >>> configuration >>> files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? >> >> rc.conf should now only contain what is necessary to configure the >> initscript

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

W dniu 25.07.2012 21:49, brainwor...@lavabit.com pisze: And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of configuration files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? rc.conf should now only contain what is necessary to configure the initscripts. See arch-dev-

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

>> And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of >> configuration >> files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? > > rc.conf should now only contain what is necessary to configure the > initscripts. See arch-dev-public for details. > So systemd is instead o

Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

On Jul 25, 2012 9:22 PM, wrote: > > Hello, folks > > Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process > of installation and configuration of arch linux. > > I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anything > incorrectly. > > First. About absence of core

[arch-general] Systemd +1

Hey all, I just wanted to share my experience with you. I follow closely the changes and discussion about systemd and I have to say that in the first I was worried also that taken away the basic configuration from rc.conf will be complicated and will cause more pain. I usually enjoy breaking my co

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Guys, relax, we are all in the same wagon, it's a nonsense to make anything personal nor to demonstrate who has the bigger dick, fuck off all that shit. As some _DEVS_ had actually stated, let's discuss everything from a TECHNICAL point of view, arguing and ranting because personal dislikes of pro

Re: [arch-general] Joining mp3's --> Floating point exceptionffmpeg

Am 25.07.2012 20:54, schrieb pants: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:26:37PM +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: Does anyone have an advice for me ? Have the suitable parameters for ffmpeg changed ? Or is the ffmpeg-call obsolete meanwhile (it seemed to be necessary for fixing the audio-header concering tra

[arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux

Hello, folks Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process of installation and configuration of arch linux. I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anything incorrectly. First. About absence of core images. When I just read about it, I thought why

Re: [arch-general] Joining mp3's --> Floating point exceptionffmpeg

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:26:37PM +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: > Does anyone have an advice for me ? Have the suitable parameters for > ffmpeg changed ? Or is the ffmpeg-call obsolete meanwhile (it seemed > to be necessary for fixing the audio-header concering track length) > ? Despite the chanc

[arch-general] Joining mp3's --> Floating point exceptionffmpeg

Hi, folks, for joining audio dramas (d/l from Amazon) which come along in MP3-Format I use a short script #!/bin/bash mp3wrap tmp.mp3 *.mp3 ffmpeg -i tmp_MP3WRAP.mp3 -acodec copy all.mp3 && rm tmp_MP3WRAP.mp3 It works for half of my books, processing the other half produces this error messag

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 12:41 -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:07:29 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > > > very often and publishes them by the

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:27 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf > >> wrote: > >> > And what has all that to do with /

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:07:29 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > > very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How > > many pro-audio cards are wo

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? >> >> And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read a

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 14:13 -0300, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? > > And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... I only can apologize for my relatively less

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > And what has all that to do with /etc/rc.conf splitting? And some people wonder why Arch devs don't read arch-general... -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? For more information, please read: http://idalle

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 18:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) > very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How > many pro-audio cards are working with PA? L. Poettering, the boy with > the same haircut as

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> > Maybe you could be clearer because scripting is almost boundless. > > There is no way to specify in DAEMONS that syslog-ng and dbus should be > started in parallel, and only when they are both up and running should > network manager be started. > Personally I don't care about shaving a se

[arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

L. Poettering takes photos from himself in front of the mirror (google!) very often and publishes them by the Internet. I'm a pro-audio user. How many pro-audio cards are working with PA? L. Poettering, the boy with the same haircut as Bill Gates, blames the ALSA driver, but with jack and ALSA ther

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:12 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > I am realistic and professional, because I speak from experience, like > > > > I said before more than 25 years. > > > > If the next employer you'll make an application should read this, you > > "was" an professional. > > > Is th

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Jul 25, 2012 6:14 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" wrote: > > > Why you would want to specify which services had to come before or after > > which other services is obvious when you consider that systemd boots > > services in parallel. There is no way in the current system, and no way > > without specifyi

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> The 24/07/12, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > Did you read this before posting. It's obvious that reviewing the config > > > > files and getting the source and finding the bug in C is much easier of > > > > course and can be fixed immediately by anyone without another OS or > > > > machine. > > >

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> The 24/07/12, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > > Did you read this before posting. It's obvious that reviewing the config > > > > files and getting the source and finding the bug in C is much easier of > > > > course and can be fixed immediately by anyone without another OS or > > > > machine. > > >

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> If a service is not provided: > - with SysVinit you have to write the whole script usually relying on > whatever library the distribution provides (which tend to be > error-prone); > - with systemd, you just write a configuration file. > Well arch has some includes to make it prettier. On O

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> Hello Heiko, > > this is simply not true. > > First of all, starting with Windows XP the stability of Windows (yes, > Windows, not Windoze) got much better and there are very few crashes which > are mostly related to driver issues, IMO. > Incidentally, I installed a fresh XP a couple of wee

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> > > I am realistic and professional, because I speak from experience, like > > > I said before more than 25 years. > > If the next employer you'll make an application should read this, you > "was" an professional. Is that a joke because I don't get it? I'd hire him, if I could afford him!

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

> Why you would want to specify which services had to come before or after > which other services is obvious when you consider that systemd boots > services in parallel. There is no way in the current system, and no way > without specifying, to boot several daemons at the same time and then >

[arch-general] fluxbox + notification-daemon

Hi all, I've some problem with notification-daemon. Trying to start notification-daemon with my fluxbox at startup I get some errors. The problem is when the daemon receive a notification For example if I send something with notify-send: notify-send "hi" "hello this is a notification" I see

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> Then create a service file in /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service >> >> [unit] >> description= David's Network Setup >> Wants= network.target >> Before= network.targ

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 07/25/12 at 01:47am, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> to reiterate the above ... it works fantastic. the Pandaboard runs 9 >> custom unit files (1/2 of which are just mods to the shipped unit >> files): >> >> u.dhcpd4.service >> u.dnsmasq.s

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On 25/07/2012 5:54 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: [snip] Why do I have to tell systemd in all of those init scripts what "service" has to run before or after this "service"? In DAEMONS in rc.conf I just have a list of daemons I want to have started in one single line. And the order in which they hav

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Then create a service file in /etc/systemd/system/davids-network.service > > [unit] > description= David's Network Setup > Wants= network.target > Before= network.target > > [service] > Type = oneshot > ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/da

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 06:42 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: >> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:57:02 AM Tom Gundersen wrote:or you could >> > tell systemd to ruin your script. >> ^^^ >> This was worth a good laugh this morni

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On 07/25/12 at 01:47am, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > to reiterate the above ... it works fantastic. the Pandaboard runs 9 > custom unit files (1/2 of which are just mods to the shipped unit > files): > > u.dhcpd4.service > u.dnsmasq.service > u.fwknopd.service > u.hostapd.service > iptables.servic

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 13:18 +0200, Oliver Kraitschy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:20:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Is there the need to talk about Windows? XP is stable, just most XP > > users are unexperienced, so they break their XPs, but for such computer > > users a Linux won't w

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:20:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Is there the need to talk about Windows? XP is stable, just most XP > users are unexperienced, so they break their XPs, but for such computer > users a Linux won't work, since it needs too much tweaking to get a > Linux run, hence a b

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 13:05 +0200, Oliver Kraitschy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:14:57AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: > > I am realistic and professional, because I speak from experience, like > > I said before more than 25 years. If the next employer you'll make an application should read thi

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:14:57AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: > I used Windoze long enough. And I had to reinstall it every 3 months, > and I know a lot of people who also had to do it this often. Since > Windoze XP it was maybe not every 3 months anymore, but still often > enough. > I am realisti

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 06:42 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:57:02 AM Tom Gundersen wrote:or you could > > tell systemd to ruin your script. > ^^^ > This was worth a good laugh this morning Typing ungloved is better. Or using an alphabetically ke

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Jul 25, 2012 12:42 PM, "Baho Utot" wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:57:02 AM Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Jul 25, 2012 2:45 AM, "David Benfell" wrote: > > > rc.d start network #successfully gets some address and a route > > > for i in 74.207.225.79/32 74.207.227.150/32 173.230.137.73/3

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:57:02 AM Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Jul 25, 2012 2:45 AM, "David Benfell" wrote: > > rc.d start network #successfully gets some address and a route > > for i in 74.207.225.79/32 74.207.227.150/32 173.230.137.73/32 > > 173.230.137.76/32 > > do > > > > ip addr

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012/7/24 Tom Gundersen : > It is based on the desktop-entry-spec: > , which > in turn is (as far as I know) based on Window's .ini format. This is true: http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/systemd.unit.html. It could be worse; those i

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 25/07/12, Heiko Baums wrote: >> >> systemd I have to run a special command to have a daemon started at >> boot time (which I additionally have to remember), I have to write such >> an ini file instead of just writing or editing a simpl

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

On Jul 25, 2012 2:45 AM, "David Benfell" wrote: > rc.d start network #successfully gets some address and a route > for i in 74.207.225.79/32 74.207.227.150/32 173.230.137.73/32 > 173.230.137.76/32 > do > ip addr add "${i}" dev eth0 > done > ip -6 addr add 2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe96:64e2/64

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:51:15 +0200 (CEST) schrieb okra...@arcor.de: > this is simply not true. Sorry, but this is simply true. I know Windoze XP and I had to use it long enough, far too long. > First of all, starting with Windows XP the stability of Windows (yes, > Windows, not Windoze) got much

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:44:34 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht : > I can find anything in systemd which could make think of the registry > on Windows. I didn't say that. > You are mixing up two things: > - adding/removing services on boot; > - configuring the services. > > The first - adding/remov

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

Am Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:22:28 +0200 schrieb Nelson Marambio : > that is / was right for Win 98 or Win ME. Having an exception error > which was caused by damaged registry files always meant a reset to > state short after the OS-installation, so all the drivers and > programs had to be re-installed

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On 25-07-2012 09:44, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> then systemd creates some symlinks of >> files into another directory whose name is also totally cryptic, at >> least way to long. This is a total mess, if this is really true, and >> it's absolutely a step towards a seco

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 07:51 +0200, okra...@arcor.de wrote: > > Bad programming is the most favorite answer, and totally nonsense. The > > registry just gets bigger and bigger and is totally cryptic. And the > > registry is one of the most frequent reasons for system crashes and > > instabilities. A

Re: [arch-general] pacman and corrupt packages

2012/7/25 Ike Devolder : >> That is an option I have not yet tried but I just want to preserve the >> reproduction and debug the problem if there is any. Maybe this will help: cd /var/lib/pacman/pkg for pkg in *; do bsdtar -tf $pkg > /dev/null || echo "$pkg is broken"; done This is strange, for

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

The 25/07/12, Heiko Baums wrote: > In Linux I have/had some simple text files with which I can/could > configure the whole system, while I had a terrible, cryptic registry on > Windoze. I can find anything in systemd which could make think of the registry on Windows. > In Linux I just c

[arch-general] Re: My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

The 24/07/12, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > Did you read this before posting. It's obvious that reviewing the config > > > files and getting the source and finding the bug in C is much easier of > > > course and can be fixed immediately by anyone without another OS or > > > machine. > > > > Did yo