Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread Iru Cai
2013/5/13 Karol Blazewicz karol.blazew...@gmail.com On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: Hi all, I was alarmed, I think unnecessarily, when I saw the message that a symlink for systemd was removed on an upgrade. As near as I can tell, the

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.05.2013 10:18, schrieb Iru Cai: Well, some people seldom read pacman's output. e.g. I use a cron job to use pacman to update the system, and I don't read the log very often. That's your own fault then. Why do you think it's a bad way? Maybe some people haven't installed

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Sunday 12 May 2013 22:32:03 David Benfell wrote: Hi all, I was alarmed, I think unnecessarily, when I saw the message that a symlink for systemd was removed on an upgrade. As near as I can tell, the boot sequence still relies on init, which links to the right place. Is there a

Re: [arch-general] Linux 3.9.2-1-ARCH cures blank screen

2013-05-13 Thread Joaquin Villanova
On 05/13/13 08:15, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2013 00:53:17 +0200, Whiskers catwhee...@operamail.com wrote: The blank screen I first reported in January with Linux-3.7.3-1-i686 seems to have been cured by the latest update to Linux-3.9.2-1-i686 (and/or other updates that have happened

Re: [arch-general] Linux 3.9.2-1-ARCH cures blank screen

2013-05-13 Thread Bjoern Franke
Am 13.05.2013 08:15, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: It's normal that lot of options are broken and reporting them to upstream as a bug, only does lead to flame. Do you have any examples? -- xmpp b...@schafweide.org bjo.nord-west.org | nord-west.org | freifunk-ol.de

[arch-general] RME cards: How to show board revision and the loaded firmware version?

2013-05-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Preliminary question and regarding to this question multiposted: Does anybody still use a RME HDSPe AIO ;)? Hi, since the issues I get for my RME HDSPe AIO didn't became less, but more within the last two years, I cleaned a primary partition to install XP, just to test, if there are issues

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 12:26 AM, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: On Sunday 12 May 2013 22:32:03 David Benfell wrote: Hi all, I was alarmed, I think unnecessarily, when I saw the message that a symlink for systemd was removed on an upgrade. As near as I can

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 01:03 AM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: Not reading pacman's output may lead to problems. Why do you think it's a bad way? It's precisely because I *did* read pacman's output that I was alarmed. Like I say, I think it's okay. But I'd like

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 01:19 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: The wiki has told you to use init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd for quite some time. When I was configuring the bootloaders (grub in two cases, gummiboot in another), I was following the installation

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 13.05.2013 11:23, schrieb David Benfell: On 05/13/2013 01:19 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: The wiki has told you to use init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd for quite some time. When I was configuring the bootloaders (grub in two cases, gummiboot in another), I was following the installation

Re: [arch-general] Linux 3.9.2-1-ARCH cures blank screen

2013-05-13 Thread Mauro Santos
On 13-05-2013 08:30, Joaquin Villanova wrote: I've got a mobility radeon (rv620) chip and I've had a ton of problems with xfce. I was not using any login manager and xfce was always crashing the X session and getting me to tty, it was horrible (far from stable IMHO). That has been a

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread Whiskers
On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:19:36 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 13.05.2013 10:18, schrieb Iru Cai: Well, some people seldom read pacman's output. e.g. I use a cron job to use pacman to update the system, and I don't read the log very often. That's your own fault then. Why do

Re: [arch-general] Linux 3.9.2-1-ARCH cures blank screen

2013-05-13 Thread Whiskers
On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:41:57 +0100 Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote: On 13-05-2013 08:30, Joaquin Villanova wrote: I've got a mobility radeon (rv620) chip and I've had a ton of problems with xfce. I was not using any login manager and xfce was always crashing the X session and

Re: [arch-general] Linux 3.9.2-1-ARCH cures blank screen

2013-05-13 Thread Whiskers
On Mon, 13 May 2013 09:30:49 +0200 Joaquin Villanova joaquin.villanova.rom...@alumnos.upm.es wrote: [...] @Whiskers maybe custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ profiles could help you with mouse/keyboard issues, i have to do it once in a chromium OS laptop and it solved the issues just fine. I felt

Re: [arch-general] 'Check out-of-date packages' tool

2013-05-13 Thread Don deJuan
On 05/12/2013 03:21 PM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Don deJuan donjuans...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/11/2013 11:26 AM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone Per discussion in 'pacman-dev' maillist [1] I implemented a tool that tries to find Arch out-of-date

Re: [arch-general] libvirtd - save shutdown and systemd

2013-05-13 Thread Jameson
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote: So at least one way would be place a script that calls /etc/rc.d/libvirtd-guests stop (or equivalent, it's not hard to replace) in /etc/systemd/system-shutdown/ . My main question is if this would be a correct way or that

[arch-general] gcc: loop do not terminate

2013-05-13 Thread LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
I have just been hit by something: lano1106@hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ --version g++ (GCC) 4.8.0 20130502 (prerelease) Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS

Re: [arch-general] gcc: loop do not terminate

2013-05-13 Thread Daniel Micay
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT olivier.pis.langl...@transport.alstom.com wrote: I have just been hit by something: lano1106@hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ --version g++ (GCC) 4.8.0 20130502 (prerelease) Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free

[arch-general] gtkmm and VMware Workstation

2013-05-13 Thread Guillermo Leira
Hello! An advice for VMware Workstation users: upgrading to gtkmm 2.24.3-1 on x86_64 makes VMware Workstation 8.0.6 crash on start or after a few seconds. I don't know about other versions. It happens with kernel 3.8.11 and 3.9.2. Downgrading to gtkmm 2.24.2-2 solves it (after an hour of trial

Re: [arch-general] gcc: loop do not terminate

2013-05-13 Thread LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
The only time the switch makes a difference is when the program is already incorrect. I really doubt Arch is going to enable a flag slowing down all programs to make invalid programs behave *differently* (not necessary as they were intended to behave, just *differently*). GCC is correctly

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 02:32 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: In any case, booting a default installation without init= is supported and recommended, and we will make sure it keeps working. Good. That alleviates a lot of my concern. - -- David Benfell /

Re: [arch-general] gcc: loop do not terminate

2013-05-13 Thread Daniel Micay
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:59 PM, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT olivier.pis.langl...@transport.alstom.com wrote: The only time the switch makes a difference is when the program is already incorrect. I really doubt Arch is going to enable a flag slowing down all programs to make invalid programs