Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Francis Gerund
Okay guys, thanks for the info. I didn't know about and hadn't thought about all the packages in the base group being mandatory (or at least expected by other packages). And yes, I find installed automatically, packages for: -ext -jfs -reiser -xfs and who knows what else . . . Even though I

[arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Francis Gerund
Sometimes pacman presents updates that just don't seem to apply to my system. Just one example: sudo pacman -Syyuv presents btrfs-progs, even though: 1) I do not, and have not, used the Btrfs file system with my Arch setup. 2) It is Required by: None 3) It is Optional for: None But I hate

Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Oliver Temlin
On May 13, 2015 12:45:58 AM CEST, Francis Gerund ranr...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes pacman presents updates that just don't seem to apply to my system. Just one example: sudo pacman -Syyuv presents btrfs-progs, even though: 1) I do not, and have not, used the Btrfs file system with my

Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Marshall Neill
Could it be it was installed during installation. I have found reiser, btrfs and journal file programs of which I only use ext4. On 05/12/2015 05:45 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: Sometimes pacman presents updates that just don't seem to apply to my system. Just one example: sudo pacman -Syyuv

Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Scott Lawrence
Hi, pacman will request to update all installed packages. If you think you don't need a certain package, -Rscn it. Not upgrading a package that you nevertheless keep installed is probably a Bad Idea (as you realize). That being said, there's no major disadvantage (disk space issues

Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Eli Schwartz
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Francis Gerund ranr...@gmail.com wrote: Okay guys, thanks for the info. I didn't know about and hadn't thought about all the packages in the base group being mandatory (or at least expected by other packages). And yes, I find installed automatically,

Re: [arch-general] Why irrelevant updates?

2015-05-12 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Eli Schwartz eschwart...@gmail.com wrote: It is what it is. FWIW -- I don't think they are expected, base is a guideline and other packages should not be making assumptions (and usually don't). I think it could reasonably be expected that one has things like