ook like when they're installed on my
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- A personal mechanism to pass notes addressed to Eli Schwartz? (That
last reopen request...) Please use email instead... Submitting a
reopen request with the sole effort of arguing with the Bug Wranglers
about why "you're wrong" for repeatedl
On 7/24/19 7:17 PM, Gilgamesh via arch-general wrote:
On 7/24/19 1:44 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
On 7/24/19 12:35 AM, Gilgamesh via arch-general wrote:
Hello, firstly, I don't know where I can send this message, so sorry if
this is the wrong place.
Clisp (an ANSI Common Lisp
:
https://gitlab.com/gnu-clisp/clisp/commit/8934707712fc87a5dbe9c4387440ed024525b38a
The most recent commit to the project is from 3 weeks ago.
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On 7/21/19 4:11 AM, Stephen Gregoratto wrote:
On 2019-07-21 02:42, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
How does renaming the file from SHA256.sig to SHA256 help you validate
the contents using signify?
I rename it in the source array:
"SHA256::${_mirrorurl}/${pkgver}/amd64/SHA25
, be used in makepkg
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Moreover, what good
do the checksums do you, when it's the files themselves that you want to
verify?
The latter problem is why I'm incredibly frustrated by projects that use
PGP, too -- when the only thing they sign is a file containing
checksums, and not the actual source file.
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aro users, I'm a lot more disturbed
by the script than I am by the PKGBUILD. Try counting the number of
times the "bmenu" script will fall back to running "sudo pacman -Sy
ranger && ranger".
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rdware keys, there is no need to come up with a replacement for
the password nightmare. Hardware keys have existed for some time now,
and they were already intended as a replacement for the password
"nightmare", something they do an excellent job at. Did you try getting one?
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can do one better -- limited to executables and not shell builtins,
aliases, or functions -- and list *all* conflicting command binaries.
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On 6/17/19 12:38 PM, Manuel Reimer wrote:
> On 17.06.19 18:18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> That being said, it's possible to configure sudo to run makechrootpkg,
>> but only makechrootpkg, as root. Or run SUDO_USER=... SUDO_UID=...
>> makechrootpkg.
>
&g
On 6/17/19 11:11 AM, Manuel Reimer wrote:
> On 16.06.19 17:57, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> As a matter of fact, if you use clean chroot builds
>> then you possibly don't want to copy your private key to the chroot, and
>> anyway there have IIRC been bugs with si
to support alternative
architectures to list all arches they support in their PKGBUILDs. For
someone who principally uses i686, this is a no-brainer. :p
(Also: reminder that even though Arch usually has a bit of a rocky
relationship with derivative distros, we are on exceedingly friendly
terms
rver
can retroactively replace *all* packages built at any date, and trick
you into signing a new repo DB referencing them.
- In shared packaging situations, like when a team of dozens of people
all upload packages, you want to be able to verify who signed each
package, as opposed to o
On 5/27/19 6:10 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>
>> I think Chet Ramey did a pretty good explanation in the linked mailing
>> list about why this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what "POSIX"
>> means, but just to be extr
ash is allowed to claim it
implements POSIX. Also I doubt dracut does insane things like attempt to
invoke a utility named "^", with or without doing the POSIX thing and
disambiguating it with the use of the command utility.
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On 5/23/19 7:08 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> Given that your initial post does specifically state that you are
> patching the package in order to allow it, I will assume that nothing I
> just said about upstream's intentions is remotely surprising to you --
> you would have to know that i
On 5/24/19 4:03 AM, Andy Pieters wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:08 AM Eli Schwartz via arch-general <
> arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Given that your initial post does specifically state that you are
>> patching the package in order to allow it, I will as
creation of the wiki page in November 2009[2] and I
> believe before that it was on another wiki page that has since been
> deleted without preserving its history[3], so I don't know where it came
> from. Should this really be declared as wrong now?
Easy answer! The wiki is a more in-depth discussion of what the manpage
says, and therefore takes precedence.
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. Why be misleading? It will only
result in people having no idea what you are talking about, assuming
your public statements about this being some form of Arch Linux
configuration are accurate, and giving you uninformed answers as a
result. This is hardly conducive to your desired goal to find out why.
-
ll consider it illogical, but I have been outvoted. But I would
> not claim that “libdrm” maintainer is wrong on using 'custom' here.
That most likely has to do with the fact that your own wiki link
explicitly says that is what you're supposed to do.
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s we cannot trust /boot to be a sane filesystem.)
I would rather avoid such bundles at all costs, it sounds like someone
saw a problem named bootctl and decided to create even more problems in
the name of a solution.
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d by the upstream dracut
project are not POSIX compliant and therefore only work with bash, but
they intend to fix that and at least some are fixed in git master
(although I haven't tested), see for example
https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/pull/516
POSIX-compliant mode is exactly the opposite of what we want.
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On 5/16/19 7:44 AM, Sefa Eyeoglu via arch-general wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2019 15:12:13 CEST Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> On 5/14/19 5:08 PM, Sefa Eyeoglu via arch-general wrote:
>>> Hey fellow Arch Users,
>>>
>>> I am currently playing aro
rintf 'linux-firmware\nlinux\n')
# see list of packages in base, minus two that you want to exclude
This list can be further piped to pacman -S -
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iles that contain "/var/run", you are welcome to
file a bug report at https://bugs.archlinux.org
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Actually ISTR an IRC conversation with another packager, who discovered
the same thing and who said he would get in touch with the the mandb
maintainer about this.
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a bug about this in the first place as this
should never have been relegated to thirdparty configuration performed
only after reading the wiki. I did not realize there was no bug report
for this... well, now there is one: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/61852
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relegated to thirdparty configuration performed only after reading the
wiki. I did not realize there was no bug report for this... well, now
there is one: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/61852
cyrus-sasl is covered by https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/61712
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On 2/22/19 11:49 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 02/20/2019 11:10 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> From a QA point of view, if no one found the packages which lack a
>> policy in the several years the pambase ticket was open for, then
>> putting a permissive polic
determine when "other" is used on my
> system, or in aggregate across a larger number of users to avoid
> problems.
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On 2/19/19 11:26 AM, Tinu Weber wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:22:34 -0500, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> On 2/19/19 10:19 AM, Tinu Weber wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 14:10:34 +0100, Robin Broda via arch-general wrote:
>>>> remakepkg inv
you want to reproduce it -- a reproducible rebuild of
remakepkg packages should have as its only input, the original .pkg.tar.xz
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n is not the canonical provider of
thirdparty utilities. Nor should it be -- if the primary "person who
cares" about the tool does not regularly interact with the pacman-dev
mailing list, the code would simply rot as part of pacman, and
furthermore, even if it did see active development in the pacman tree,
it would be forced to conform to the slower release cycle of pacman for
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re not drop-in replacements, but
apparently brltty supports both...
If brltty can simply ignore those modules when they're not loadable it
would make sense to only optdepend on it. By the same token, you might
want to ask for espeak-ng support to be added.
I encourage you to open a bug report asking
ip. Although it is unlikely you installed it without
realizing it -- there is no reason django should *depend* on uwsgi.
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iso? I
> should probably start by making a feature request for the archiso
> package ...
Documenting its use on the wiki, for starters. :p
Then submit a feature request with rationale for inclusion at
https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6
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On 1/13/19 5:27 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>> I want full disk encryption. There is nothing controversial about FDE,
>> it is already covered in the Wiki, except that I want FDE without LVM.
>
> You can have FDE without LVM today, using the suggestion I just provided
> and you
not a lot of work. The software does not seem to have a lot of
dependencies...
...
But I still do not understand what practical benefits you are seeking
that are not solved by having multiple encrypted partitions on an
unencrypted partition table.
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d key.
If you do need hibernation support, the simple method would be to use a
swap file residing on the encrypted /
The more complex method would be to copy the initramfs encrypt hook and
modify it to support an additional encrypted device with a different
password.
None of this needs k
he version of the "python" package, as
it will break all python-related software in the entire distribution, of
which there is a tremendous amount. If you do it, you are no longer
running Arch Linux.
There is absolutely no issue with installing the python35 package next
to the python package, it
ery time someone asks about a release date it is postponed by
a week
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On 12/30/18 6:19 PM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> Am 30.12.18 um 23:06 schrieb Eli Schwartz via arch-general:
>> On 12/30/18 4:04 PM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I need to use the inspect module with python 2.7, but the imported imp
>>&g
builtin in
python2 and imp.py is a (deprecated!) part of the stdlib in python3.
You should definitely be able to "import imp". Please explain your
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ore
> or less dead? :/
> But in MBR-land it seems to be the only alternative to grub?
Bootloaders seem to suffer from a depressing lack of competition. Much
as I like grub, I can appreciate the sadness that is this lack.
Apparently syslinux git (a.k.a. the future 6.04) will also finally
t doesn't validly build in 2018. Please wait, we are trying to get to
a working state, and hopefully our syslinux maintainer will be able to
resolve this sometime soon. Once we can trust the package actually
works, we can move it to stable.
Hope this clears things up for you. :)
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> is still out of date?
>
> Kind regards,
> Sefa Eyeoglu
> https://scrumplex.net
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2017-September/044255.html
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very example of the entire Arch Linux distribution being
completely ignorant about how grub works due to the LIES of the grub
developers who use scary language to make people think it's too hard for
mere mortals to use.
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ges all these things with respect to the grub bootloader.
I am in the gradual process of hopefully fixing all this via rewriting
the wiki page for grub. My current progress towards this end can be seen
at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Eschwartz/Grub#Configuration
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type of person to look at
pacman's output.
Either way, there is not much to be done about it after the fact. Much
like there's not much to be done about packaging the grub.cfg in the
first place, 6 years after the fact, except to fix what we can and
resolve to do better next time.
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ported to qt5), etc.
Notice, these are all typically support libraries used as dependencies
for other packages, rather than leaf software.
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entirely unheard of for major new releases of a
software to need migration, drop features (and hopefully add new ones),
etc. This does *not* mean it is new software entirely, and it should
*not* be named something new.
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the job
cleanup.{service,time} :
https://git.archlinux.org/infrastructure.git/tree/roles/dbscripts/files
The dbscripts cleanup script itself:
https://git.archlinux.org/dbscripts.git/tree/cron-jobs/ftpdir-cleanup
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e database has been altered,
> and old versions removed, between the -y's refresh and fetching a long
> list of packages?
It won't be old and now missing, because you used -Sy and it will
refresh *again*.
But if you don't use -y, then trying to install a package first looks in
the cache, where it may not need to be fetched...
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623e01f0c45235cd
This will eventually make its way to pacman-contrib upstream, but it's
pending some pacman changes which are still in git and only very
recently landed.
In the meantime you can also use
https://github.com/eli-schwartz/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/cacheupdates
Just run cacheupdates
nd it seems to have gone well.
Forgot to mention, but yeah, running the command that the hook was
supposed to run, will usually work. :D
If it doesn't work, it would be because the hook specifies NeedsTargets
and therefore expects to receive a list of files on standard input,
listing the files whic
to see if you get the same
error.
Then, try installing pacman-git from the AUR or from my unofficial repo
hosted at
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories#eschwartz
The fix should be in pacman-git, and this should no longer crash.
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ich you have not asked yourself why you are
using it. Did you read the manpage for this?
-shared
Create a shared library. This is currently only supported on ELF,
XCOFF and SunOS platforms. On SunOS, the linker will automatically
create a shared library if the -e option is not used and there
sing:
CPPFLAGS='-DSYSHOOKDIR=\"/i/dont/want/to/run/any/hooks/\"' ./configure
But I don't see any point to this.
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ll be?),
doesn't properly handle paths with spaces or newlines in them, and also
spends a lot of time searching the whole directory tree instead of only
searching the given subpath.
I favor option one. :)
Also, PKGBUILDs with complex metadata assignments are annoying to do
correctly, which is probably a reminder that we should all strive to
avoid them!
*glares at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/58776 and sighs*
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feature (directly
> or indirectly).
Even if you disable the mitigations, the fast path we're talking about
here was simply deleted from linux.git -- it doesn't exist anymore,
zero, zilch, squat, nada.
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gt; good about keeping everything up-to-date, so I am curious what the
> reason for this is. Something to do with compatibility?
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2017-September/044255.html
If you have further news, feel free to share. :)
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releases.
(Anyway I'm delighted to see the number of java versions decrease by at
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letely inert in either an
installed package or a *.pkg.tar.xz file.
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fy its configuration which is something
that goes against the current architecture... What would happen instead is
pacman.conf could be used to configure this.
I'm not sure if IgnorePkg or HoldPkg would have an effect here...
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h other, so there's
absolutely nothing wrong with doing so. Admittedly, it's no longer a
repo package so it's unsupported, but that was the case whether it was
moved to the AUR or deleted with a replaces.
...
You will get prompted again and again on every pacman -Su "to see if
you're final
cally, Spectre has proven to be our friend here -- due to all the
mitigations, there is now no fast path for these system calls, so your
kernel is just as slow whether AUDIT is enabled or not. Therefore, we
ended up simply enabling it.
See https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42954 for more background.
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On 9/7/18 11:38 AM, Jeanette C. wrote:
> Sep 7 2018, Eli Schwartz via arch-general has written:
> ...
>> Jeanette, you can submit an orphan request for this package as the
>> original maintainer is not fixing it, and then adopt the package to fix
>> the dependencies.
>
he
original maintainer is not fixing it, and then adopt the package to fix
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g the system.
e.g. you might want RPC daemons running as soon as possible. You most
likely do want haveged running as soon as possible.
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On 8/27/18 2:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 08/26/2018 08:11 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> in the "avantfax_hourly" file
> Yes, of course it does,
>
> $ head -n 2 /srv/http/avantfax/includes/phb.php
I've reread these two statements eleven tim
On 8/26/18 9:48 AM, SET wrote:
> Le dimanche 26 août 2018 15:11:36 CEST Eli Schwartz via arch-general a écrit :
>> some wonderful shebang
>
> Ha ! My wonderful shebang was "#/bin/sh" instead of "#!/bin/sh".
>
> After correcting the typo, run-
mething completely and utterly irrelevant.
Mind you, this is just a guess. The only thing I know for sure is that
your real problem is exactly what Ralph said it was.
You're installing a crontab designed to run every hour, into a location
meant to be run as an executable (by anacron which runs ever
tinued or problematic.
>
> Ignoring that Antergoes isn't supported by this mailing list
Can you please refrain from willfully ignoring this fact.
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> name::1.735 [python /usr/bin/blueman-applet] (owned by unix-user:frank)
>
> Any ideas how to change this strange behavior?
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/59736
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=239697
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nd one software dependency, seems
rather inefficient. Learn to love pkg-config, it's quite fantastic. ;)
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/known, and more critically, it was in the expectation
of getting a reply.
Hence it would be logical to wait for said reply. :)
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*signed* and thus makepkg will check if that signature
> matches one of those specified in the validpgpkeys array.
>
> From a security standpoint, it's irrelevant if the sources come from
> arch hosted infra, from github, or from kernel.org.
I'm all for hosting it through bittorrent TBH.
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Who are you trying to convince here?
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> signature.
>
> Here you go:
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.xz
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.17.13.tar.sign
We do not listen to your orders.
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_64.pkg.tar.xz ...
/usr/bin/named
NEEDED libjson-c.so.4
You did a partial update. Things broke.
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ten do not realize that what seems obvious
to us (cf. my above inferences regarding the language syntax) are
non-obvious to others. When confusion arises, this is a good opportunity
to get outside perspective on the matter (and, coincidentally, a sneaky
way to trick people into becoming contribut
On 07/22/2018 12:55 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On 07/20/2018 04:23 AM, WorMzy Tykashi via arch-general wrote:
>> On 20 July 2018 at 08:38, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/20/18 at 09:05am, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
>>>> On 07/19/18 at 07:23pm, Flo
gt;>
"$HOME"/.config/pacman/makepkg.conf
in order to make this work properly.
I consider this to be eminently reasonable without further modifications
to makepkg.conf(5), since it is described as being sourced after all.
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umentation on the
makepkg wiki page. Anyway, it's indicated pretty clearly in the manpage
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gnal, *continuing what I feel to be a general
trend on a personal level*, and thus fair game for my sarcasm, "low-wit"
or not.
For I consider that to have been trolling. The fact that it had a useful
result was entirely accidental and surprising.
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On 07/26/2018 06:50 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 18:30:01 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> What does the "web bug" have to do with this discussion?
>
> It's a hint that not every user likes 'auto-key-retrieve', but instead
> only manuall
you verified the
> signature.
>
> I'm using an alias to manually add new keys:
>
> $ grep gkey= .bashrc
> alias gkey='gpg --keyserver hkp://pgp.uni-mainz.de --recv-keys'
What does the "web bug" have to do with this discussion?
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just
> change? Or does the package have security issues, and I shouldn't
> install it?
I've literally got no clue what you're trying to imply here. Database?
What database?
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hing wrong, because their developers don't *intend* to produce
incorrect behavior.
Also pacaur is officially discontinued and archived on Github.
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On 07/20/2018 04:23 AM, WorMzy Tykashi via arch-general wrote:
> On 20 July 2018 at 08:38, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
>
>> On 07/20/18 at 09:05am, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
>>> On 07/19/18 at 07:23pm, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote:
>>>> On Wed 18.07.18 -
there is https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?K=customizepkg
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o the question of "why on earth do you feel the need to
send three emails to point someone at a wiki page"...
You do realize this is totally wrong?
[core] is not assumed installed the base group is. And that really has
nothing to do with the offtopic efficacy of the -s option.
in 2011.
For the past 7.5 years, /etc/bash.bashrc has been the canonical place to
make custom bash-specific modifications, due to it being *correctly*
marked as a backup file. I've got no clue why you think it isn't one.
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click on a link and a
> windows opens returning Error: $HOME/$URL: Not existing file or
> directory Where $HOME is my home path and $URL is the target URL. I
> have no clue regarding what configuration makes it so. Any
> suggestions?
Which version of xdg-utils?
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/
On 06/10/2018 09:53 AM, Tinu Weber wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 09:20:38 -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
>> It's a fancy way of doing `|| true`.
>
> Yes, that I knew - I just thought that it would make Make stop at the
> error (message) rather than continuing (al
bly a PKGBUILD function gets added to convert
>> existing installations?
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't understand that sentence.
I'm blindly assuming this was intended to be "a post-install script to
fix it", but even then no, plus it wouldn't really get rid of the errors.
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cally removed and reinstalled and
users might wish to modify the permissions for many reasons (which is
not typically the case for files).
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