Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 23/08/12, Ike Devolder wrote: No there is no package providing those files. why ? if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated you would get *.pacnew files in your etc. since

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: BTW, my point is what kind of upgrade can you reasonably expect for such files, which you don't reply to. I can't see the future. 2 years ago would anyone have suggested the current arrangement? If the files are

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Thursday 23 Aug 2012 16:14:26 Qadri wrote: Is there a package that provides these /etc files, like hostname, vconsole.conf, locale.conf? It feels weird creating untracked files in /etc. Is there interest in an aur package (e.g. systemd_etc_files) that I could make with all the many comments

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-24 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 23/08/12, Ike Devolder wrote: No there is no package providing those files. why ? if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated you would get *.pacnew files in

[arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-23 Thread Qadri
Hi all, Given all the hullabaloo about systemd I thought I'd try it out. I went to the wiki and saw that it has listed several native systemd configuration files that it looks for, and if they're absent, it takes info from rc.conf. It's strongly advised (by the wiki) to use the native files. Is

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-23 Thread Ike Devolder
Op donderdag 23 augustus 2012 16:14:26 schreef Qadri: Hi all, Given all the hullabaloo about systemd I thought I'd try it out. I went to the wiki and saw that it has listed several native systemd configuration files that it looks for, and if they're absent, it takes info from rc.conf. It's

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-23 Thread Stephen E. Baker
On 23/08/2012 4:41 PM, Ike Devolder wrote: Op donderdag 23 augustus 2012 16:14:26 schreef Qadri: Hi all, Given all the hullabaloo about systemd I thought I'd try it out. I went to the wiki and saw that it has listed several native systemd configuration files that it looks for, and if they're

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-23 Thread Qadri
if arch would provide you with defaults every time the defaults get updated you would get *.pacnew files in your etc. since those files are depending on your system and are user choice it would not be good to provide those. By that logic, wouldn't I also not get an rc.conf file and

Re: [arch-general] systemd native files in etc

2012-08-23 Thread Sébastien Leblanc
Could default templates be provided in the post_install(){} hook for the systemd package? Something like post_install() { if [ ! -e /etc/timezone ] ; then cat /etc/timezone EOF UTC fi if [ ! -e /etc/localtime ] ; then ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC /etc/localtime fi if [ ! -e /etc/hostname