Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time

2009-08-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:24:19 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > Tom K schrieb: > > SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the > > required order in the rc.conf MODULES array. > > > > I hope that's what you mean by "manually". :) > > With the asynchronous "trigger && load MODUL

Re: [arch-general] Audio cd ripper

2009-09-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:33:21 -0600 schrieb Snarkout : > Though I use KDE, I really like "grip" to rip CDs. Aeiou is also > nice, but it's cmd line. What's aeiou? Can you give me a URL? I'd suggest grip or abcde with the (external) cdparanoia. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Anyone else who has alsa issues?

2009-09-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Hi, I see, you have hda and hdmi codec modules loaded. Can it be, that your issues are related to FS#15829 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15829)? When I had this issue, there were a few audio programs, mainly KDE software, which didn't care about the sound card numbers and the module's index op

Re: [arch-general] mounting a data dvd fails

2009-09-14 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:00:59 +0200 schrieb JM : > Hello, > > I cannot mount a data dvd. > > mount /dev/dvd /media/dvd > mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' If you mount it with "mount -t iso9660 ..." then you should probably try it without the -t option or with "-t auto". Does this happen

Re: [arch-general] Opera and Java on x86_64

2009-09-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:15:56 +0200 schrieb Ondřej Kučera : > Does anyone have a better idea? Perhaps adding > /opt/java/jre/lib/amd64/server/ to LD_LIBRARY_PATH inside the opera > shell script? Here are two methods how to using Java with Opera on x86_64 systems: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:00:15 +0200 schrieb Xavier : > So this is a 2.6.31 regression, right ? If you go back on 2.6.30, it's > all fine ? > > Did you search for luks regression in 2.6.31 ? > > After a quick google (less than 1 minute), it seems that some ubuntu > users are affected too : > https:

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:08:00 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > It is very unlikely to be kernel related. And 2.6.31 has been in > testing far too long, it should really be moved. I just installed kernel26 2.6.31.3 from testing and can't reproduce this issue. I have encrypted my whole system except

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:00:15 +0200 schrieb Xavier : > After a quick google (less than 1 minute), it seems that some ubuntu > users are affected too : > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/433051 I have an idea. I'm not really sure, if this can be the reason, and I haven't tes

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:35 +0300 schrieb Hussam Al-Tayeb : > my root partition passphrase (arch asks for at initramfs stage) always > works and it accepts it correctly. > This issue happens when you try to unlock a partition later on. > This means that if you don't have an encrypted /home on a d

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:35:06 +0300 schrieb Roman Kyrylych : > I have 4 encrypted partitions besides root and don't have this > problem, but I have real passwords instead of ASK in /etc/crypttab > (otherwise I would be very lazy to enter them 5 times instead of > one :-P) It would probably be a bi

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:09:14 +0300 schrieb Roman Kyrylych : > I don't see why it's more secure. Because your / partition where you have stored your passphrase as a clear text in /etc/crypttab is unlocked, if your computer is running. If you get hacked your passphrase can easily be read. If the ke

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:13:38 +0300 schrieb Hussam Al-Tayeb : > I did a fsck and badblocks. nothing wrong there. > I don't think it is failing because cryptsetup on an old opensuse live > cd successfully unlocks /dev/sdb1 eventhough it doesn't support ext4. > > I'm reading manpage for smarctl and

Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).

2009-10-09 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:13:38 +0300 schrieb Hussam Al-Tayeb : > I did a fsck and badblocks. nothing wrong there. > I don't think it is failing because cryptsetup on an old opensuse live > cd successfully unlocks /dev/sdb1 eventhough it doesn't support ext4. You're saying "an old opensuse live cd"

Re: [arch-general] Latest Kernel Update Breaks kdm with Radeonhd (abterm of greeter) -- Requires Removal of xorg.conf

2009-10-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:08:30 -0500 schrieb "David C. Rankin" : > Guys, > > I almost had a heartattack tonight when I updated my laptop and X > died. I though "oh no, here we go again -- the intel story all over > again..." > > So far performance is fine with the new setup. To be honest, I don't

Re: [arch-general] We have lost the desktop war. The reason? Windows 7.

2009-10-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:57:59 +0100 schrieb RedShift : > This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided > to post my story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in > general, not the technical details behind it. Keep that in mind. > > ... > > So when should we ha

Re: [arch-general] We have lost the desktop war. The reason? Windows 7.

2009-10-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:58:49 +0100 schrieb : > > Unfortunately, fewer and fewer applications are "desktop-agnostic" > > these days. To install a gtk2 application I am usually asked to > > download half of GNOME or at least libgnomeui and gconf. Gconf is my > > personal favourite. Xfce already uses

Re: [arch-general] google wave

2009-10-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:30:44 +0100 schrieb bardo : > 2009/10/31 Artyom Smirnov : > > Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you. > > Usually I don't ask for such things, but I could really use an invite > right now: wave seems the perfect tool to coordinate my work with some >

Re: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium...

2009-11-21 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:23:52 +0100 schrieb : > wouldn't it be two PKGBUILDs, for chromium and iron? I would prefer Iron over Chromium, because it hasn't the Google spyware included. Problem with Iron is that the source code is only hosted in a splitted 7-Zip package on Rapidshare. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium...

2009-11-21 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:35:04 +0200 schrieb nez...@allurelinux.org: > That's not a problem. Source redistribution is allowed so we can host > the sources wherever we want. > > I'm interested in a built-from-source native x86_64 iron package. The > "build" directory in the iron sources is empty tho

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:30:50 +0800 schrieb Gergely Imreh : > Anyway, this is just an observation, Arch seems to do quite well in > general (thanks Maintainers:). I'll look around the repos again and > might come up for some more repackaging ideas for the next bug > squashing day or something... I

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:03:55 +0200 schrieb Ionut Biru : > can't be an optdepends. > > pacman -Rd smbclient > > mplayer > mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libsmbclient.so.0: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > smbclient is kinda important for those packa

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:53:12 -0800 schrieb Giovanni Scafora : > Why do you don't fill a bug report for those packages? Because I didn't know if this is a bug and if smbclient can indeed be moved to optdepends which isn't possible as Ionut has written. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:54:49 +0100 schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > Some depends are made for convenience, you can build the packages > with ABS without those depends, if they don't stop the program from > starting remove them and add then to ignore array in pacman.conf. But if I wanted to compile e

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:31:37 +0200 schrieb Ionut Biru : > like i said previous better to have that feature. Removing that > feature just because _you_ don't use and _you_ want to have minimal > packages is not the way. I agree with you. It was just a question. As it's not possible to put smbclien

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:17:13 -0200 schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva : > I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo. > Arch is one of the best distros I've used, but when you use a > (primarily) binary distro, the number of choices you have is reduced. > > I don't blame the

Re: [arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies

2009-11-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200 schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva : > I know, I know, they always come back. :P > My Arch installation is still in my HD, just in case. > > About disk usage, don't forget that arch keeps a cache of downloaded > packages. So I don't think Gentoo is in disadvantag

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:13:59 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > please comment on: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17346 > > summary: > > 1) I suggested reverting the dbus configure > flag to upstream default. > > 2) Jan de Groot closed the bug with WONTFIX > since this revert WILL break >

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:35:59 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > Heiko Baums wrote: > > > There is a second option regarding your dbus/wpa_supplicant example. > > Why not file a bug report/feature request to upstream of > > networkmanager to remove dbus from it? Of course y

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:59:24 -0500 schrieb Carlos Williams : > I have a Dell server (Power Edge 1855) blade that I am trying to > install Arch Linux on. I have no problems installing / running Debian, > CentOS, or Ubuntu on this hardware but when I try to boot from Arch CD > (2009.08 Netinst or Cor

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:30:43 -0500 schrieb Ray Kohler : > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Carlos Williams > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Daenyth Blank > > wrote: > >> I think that usually means that your grub+initrd combo is broken > >> somewhere. Post your configs? > > > > There ar

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:16:47 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > The general ignorance towards power user setups might explain why > people describe us as "old timers who can't get along with change" or > "ricers" funny thing is that the wimp desktop didnt change in 20 > years while antidesktop bring

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:41:27 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > as an example. do you follow the irc channel? > Somone just triggered the qgtkstyle bug that makes it assert when you > dont run dbus and gconf. But you can't do that, as it conflicts with > other software. > fixing the bug on the ot

Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:04:23 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > Heiko Baums wrote: > > > Do you know what a bug report is and what it is for? > > http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-5545 > > this is an upstream bug, and a workaround inaproppriate to apply to >

Re: [arch-general] peaceful suggestion to clarify "the arch way" to avoid this to happen AGAIN

2009-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:08:29 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > then i suggest we remove the statement that it is all about > minimalism. This statement shouldn't be removed. Minimalism doesn't mean that no optional features are compiled into a package. Minimalism also doesn't mean that every pack

Re: [arch-general] peaceful suggestion to clarify "the arch way" to avoid this to happen AGAIN

2009-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:49:14 +0100 schrieb Arvid Picciani : > This is the entire reason i want arch to officialy state that these > users are not welcome. I want to move on, so we can split up the user > bases. Ultimately so both sides can continue their life without the > constant (and i'm mea

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:09:36 +0100 schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > You could try archboot isos linked here: > ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/iso/archboot This iso boots fine. But this doesn't fix the problem with the other isos. ;-) And the previous core and netinstall LiveCDs (2009.02 and before) booted

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:11:08 +0100 schrieb f...@kokkinizita.net: > It is not beside the point. To create a new tab, just provide > a 'New Tab' button. Or have tabs from the start and label the > next free one '+'. It doesn't require IPC at all. You're not forced to using gedit. If you don't like g

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 4 Dec 2009 23:38:02 +0100 schrieb f...@kokkinizita.net: > THAT is completely irrelevant. I never claimed > to be forced to use it. THAT is completely relevant. You don't want a text editor which uses IPC so don't use one. > The point is that you can allow a user to have multiple > tabs

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 5 Dec 2009 07:48:13 +0100 schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > Sure but at least you can install arch now :) I can install Arch with the core and netinstall isos, too. I just need to execute `udevadm trigger` and `exit` at the ramfs$ prompt. Then it continues booting. ;-) I looked at the hooks

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:30:10 +0100 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase : > You could try this one > (http://phraktured.net/archlinux-2009.12-netinstall-x86_64.iso) we are > currently preparing for the next release. It uses a newer kernel and > isolinux. Please tell us the results. That image I linked is >

Re: [arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server

2009-12-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:30:10 +0100 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase : > You could try this one > (http://phraktured.net/archlinux-2009.12-netinstall-x86_64.iso) we are > currently preparing for the next release. It uses a newer kernel and > isolinux. Please tell us the results. That image I linked is >

Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos

2009-12-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:58:17 +0800 schrieb Ng Oon-Ee : > Because sometimes all the mirrors listed in mirrorlist will not have > the file, if its just been uploaded. Also not everyone stays > up-to-the-minute with updates, judging by the "updated after a month" > posts we see once in a while. > >

Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos

2009-12-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:02:16 + schrieb Nathan Wayde : > Of-course this also raises the question of 'what happens when the > master goes down?'. Or gets hacked? Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] nano 2.2.1-1

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:09:05 +0100 schrieb Andreas Radke : > note: since 2.2.0 nano failed to open PKGBUILDs for me. after removing > old /etc/nanorc and replacing it with the new one it works again. I'm answering to arch-general because I can't write to arch-dev-public. This issue is with the fi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg changes / DRM modules

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:17:23 +0200 schrieb nez...@allurelinux.org: > IMHO, Encouraging people to dasable KMS on official packages is more > sane for now. Those who need the latest and greatest should do it on > their own. > > (1) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33016 Please, don't make

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg changes / DRM modules

2009-12-23 Thread Heiko Baums
Writing again to arch-general because of write permissions. Am Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:21:03 +0100 schrieb Andreas Radke : > The sad part is that we leave all people with modern Ati cards in the > dark until upstream declares their code as stable. This will make them > going back to software rasteriz

[arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Hi, I already filed a bug report but thought it couldn't harm or even be good to post it to the mailing list, too. Since the update to kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core] I can't boot this kernel anymore. I always get a kernel panic with these messages: Failed to execute /init Kernel panic - not syn

Re: [arch-general] Kernel 2.6.32 Broken

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:54:16 -0700 schrieb Steve Holmes : > Hey, has anyone been experiencing any problems with the newest > kernel26 package from Arch? this would be 2.6.32.2. After upgrading > to it, my machine starts to boot but then dies. When I downgrade to > kernel26-2.6.31.6, all works fi

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:29:01 +0530 schrieb Partha Chowdhury : > i just updated my system yesterday to kernel 2.6.32.2-2. I faced no > problem. It is running as usual.After reading your mail, i looked in > the pacman update log and found that only kernel and virtualbox were > updated.Virtualbox is

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:24:24 -0700 schrieb Steve Holmes : > I'll have to look to see if I have the same problem. I wonder why > some people have been able to upgrade the kernel without incident and > others are having the problem with the panic? What version of > mkinitcpio is supposed to be in p

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:37:48 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > The problem occurs with mkinitcpio 0.5.26-1 from [core] but is fixed > with mkinitcpio 0.5.26-2 from [testing]. I don't know if only the mkinitcpio update fixed the issue or if there were other package updates from [testing

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:01:26 +0800 schrieb Ng Oon-Ee : > Seeing as some haven't had the same problem, perhaps some > investigation into the details of the systems which HAVE problems > (currently two on this ML thread) would be useful? but how to investigate? Which information do you need? These

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:50:34 +0100 schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > You could try to add all needed modules(filesystem,controllers etc.) > to MODULES= array in initcpio.conf, perhaps the autodetection is not > working for some reason. > Just a guess, > greetings > tpowa I already tried this. Always

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:50:34 +0100 schrieb Tobias Powalowski : > You could try to add all needed modules(filesystem,controllers etc.) > to MODULES= array in initcpio.conf, perhaps the autodetection is not > working for some reason. > Just a guess, > greetings > tpowa Forgot to say that the kernel

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2009-12-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:49:51 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > Forgot to say that the kernel panic happened with > kernel26-fallback.img, too. And the fallback image hasn't > autodetection. > > I'm currently downgrading to [core] each package one by one and see if &g

Re: [arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]

2010-01-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:01:07 -0700 schrieb Steve Holmes : > I think I am in much better shape now. I managed to upgrade all > kernel packages and speakup but had to modify my grub.cfg so all boots > now with latest packages. What I have been using is kernel parameters > to give me the 128x160 con

Re: [arch-general] Video Resolution, Grub2 and Kernel 2.6.32

2010-01-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:38:33 -0700 schrieb Steve Holmes : > When I experimented by removing the insmod statement and using > vga=790 by itself, the best I get is a 30 line display with 80 > columns width. Try vga=0x316 instead. I can set the framebuffer resolution for my graphics card only with t

Re: [arch-general] Video Resolution, Grub2 and Kernel 2.6.32

2010-01-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:38:33 -0700 schrieb Steve Holmes : > When I experimented by removing the insmod statement and using > vga=790 by itself, the best I get is a 30 line display with 80 > columns width. Or try video=1024x768 instead of vga=790 if you have a graphics card for which the kernel ha

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:23:28 -0500 schrieb Paul Mattal : > Is there also an issue we're trying to solve with anacron? Can't we > use bcron (or any other cron for that matter) and still use anacron > separately? > > I understand that fcron could theoretically do the work of both, but > don't see

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:35:35 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > I don't know bcron and yacron but I doubt that they have anacron > features. > > Also fcron supports the > directories /etc/cron.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly > and /etc/cron.monthly. So it's ver

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Answering to arch-general again. ;-) Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:51:29 +0100 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck : > When a crontab is missed due to system downtime, sometimes you want > the crontab to be done when the system boots up, but sometimes you do > not want that at all. (eg a cleanup crontab that should

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:07:15 +0100 schrieb Xavier : > Having one tool doing 2 different tasks is quite in contradiction with > the KISS philosophy. > That said, I think the rest of your argument is valid, kiss isn't the > holy grail, sometimes having a tool that is less simple, less stupid > and mo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
And regarding the missing support for /etc/cron.d in fcron, that's probably something for a feature request to upstream if someone thinks it's necessary. I haven't missed it yet. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Replies on arch-general to dev emails (was: Cron)

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:59:49 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > >> You realize you don't need to say this *every single time* you > >> answer an email from arch-dev-public? We do this (restrict who can > >> post to that list) quite on purpose, and this is the defined > >> method of answering these ema

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron

2010-01-04 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:52:45 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Though, I must admit, I did not see this email until after I replied. > yacron was not evaluated when we looked into this... From Jim's explanations I think that it could be worth testing yacron, too. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Startup scripts

2010-01-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:12:09 -0500 schrieb Alexander Lam : > I just tried Control-C during a regularly scheduled fsck on my system > and it stopped the fsck and booted normally, so that should have > worked for you. And if fsck couldn't be stopped by Ctrl-C this would be an upstream issue and has

Re: [arch-general] Boot Device Didn't Show Up

2010-01-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:43:42 -0500 schrieb Carlos Williams : > Every time I try and install Arch Linux 2009.08 Netinst .ISO disk on > my newly built PC hardware, I get the following error: > > Waiting for boot device... > Error: Boot device didn't show up after 30 seconds... > Falling back to int

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-24 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:55:22 +0100 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase : > My issue is that the cdrtools substitute cdrkit that Arch currently > officially provides is not actively developed (current to last stable > was around a year) and is technically inferior to cdrtools. I don't know anything about t

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:01:24 -0300 schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi : > cdrkit: 1.1.9 -> 1.1.10 (1 year), 1.1.6 -> 1.1.7 (another year). Only > few changes in in each release in years. > cdrtools: 13 releases in 2007, 20 in 2008, 16 in 2009, 3 in this > month. Lots of changes in each release. > >

Re: [arch-general] alsa-tools

2010-01-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:24:26 +0100 schrieb f...@kokkinizita.net: > Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools > package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into > envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work ! alsa-tools are split in AUR just to reduce the dependenci

Re: [arch-general] alsa-tools

2010-01-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:24:26 +0100 schrieb f...@kokkinizita.net: > Nothing negative, just that Alsa provides the alsa-tools > package as a unit, and in AUR things are split up into > envy24control, hdspmixer, etc. It just seems more work ! One other advantage of these split packages in AUR is tha

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:43:27 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > Yes you can... and equally so can we and not package cdrtools unless > you can prove yours. Even if you can prove your claim, we still can > relax and do nothing. Although, as I said before, the technical > merits of your project warr

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:17:01 -0500 schrieb pyther : > Look at the high-profile case of cdrtools vs cdrkit, though; it is > huge. You stated that sun spent 3 months looking into it. If for some > odd reason someone decide to sue the arch project there is a big risk > for Aaron and the maintainer of

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:15:14 +0700 schrieb Emmanuel Benisty : > If this is true, can't Joerg just issue an official statement that he > will not sue Arch and we can close this case. or can any other party > sue you when violating the GPL ? Jörg already did this in this thread. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down

2010-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:48:33 +0100 schrieb joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling): > Let me give some basic explanations: > > In German we have the word "Streitkultur", there is no equlvalent in > English - guess why... And the word "Streitkultur" is the biggest misnomer ("Unwort"

Re: [arch-general] Why taking so long?

2010-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:11:26 +0100 schrieb Andrea Crotti : > Sometimes (only twice actually) I had to recompile the kernel with ice > support from aur. > Now compiling the kernel is not a short job, but it looks like it > really compiles EVERYTHING! > > Maybe putting my .config somewhere it will

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit - tone it down

2010-01-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:56:13 +0100 schrieb joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling): > It seems that you also use this discussion to attack me. Where did I attack you? If you feel so easy being attacked, then you should indeed think about yourself. Greetings, Heiko

[arch-general] Libraries should also be built statically

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Hi, I had this issue only twice by now, but I think this is a general problem. In the recent times libraries in the repos are only built dynamically while the statical versions are disabled. This can lead to several problems if someone needs to compile a program and needs to link statically agai

Re: [arch-general] Libraries should also be built statically

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:58:24 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > I disagree. Static libraries generally suck and hide rebuilds needed > for security issues. So unless something specifically needs the > static library, I think it should be removed. Such rebuilds are only hidden if a program is linked

Re: [arch-general] Libraries should also be built statically

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:14:27 +0100 schrieb Jan de Groot : > If a program is built static against an insecure library, upgrading > the insecure library means the static binary is still vulnerable. > That's what Allan means. Well, that's obvious. > When we switch to glibc-based initramfs, there sh

Re: [arch-general] Libraries should also be built statically

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:16:09 -0500 schrieb Andrew Antle : > >> Do you have a link to this PDF? > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html > > > > Cf. http://sta.li/faq > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf Thanks for the links. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:48:14 +0100 schrieb Tom : > I don't really get that. I'm no expert in using pacman or writing > PKGBUILDs, but I can very readily imagine a mechanism that on each > rolling release update to the kernel, moves the current kernel on the > users system to say 'kernel-previous',

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and security - it needs some work

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:17:51 -0500 schrieb Carlos Williams : > How does Arch Linux far behind in security as compared to Debian. > Perhaps I caught this conversation late but I would like to know what > makes Debian better in aspects of security -vs- Arch? Can anyone > please explain? Debian keeps

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:08:23 +0100 schrieb Attila : > One of them which is important be the kernel. So if pacman would have > the option to install a certain version of a package than the user > need only to know if there is more than one version in db. So perhaps > this coould be solved at exampl

Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels

2010-02-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:09:58 -0500 schrieb dave reisner : > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:01 PM, wrote: > > > On Arch you of course always have the 'fallback' boot > > option (which can be expected to work), or you can boot > > from the original netinstall CD. But it's by no means > > clear to me how

Re: [arch-general] pacman overwriting files (was Re: dcron 4.2)

2010-02-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:30:52 +0200 (EET) schrieb Dimitrios Apostolou : > Guys that thing bit me again: During the big libpng upgrade > "initscripts" package got upgraded too and /etc/rc.{sysinit,shutdown} > got overwritten without notifying me. Because of special changes I've > made to mount /var

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:13:26 -0600 schrieb Dan McGee : > No, we don't support globbing in these options. Question to the list- > does it make sense to do so? Yes, because I usually edit many of the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications due to a missing menu editor in Xfce and a terrible menu

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:52:37 +0100 schrieb Attila : > That is true and every example was a good example. But there is a > little risk that you got lazy if you don't document what you have > done and than including a complete directory with a lot of files > could end in a bugreport where people sea

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:20:11 +0100 schrieb Pierre Chapuis : > Recursion is a good idea but that's not what is usually expected from > *. I would suggest to use ** like in ZSH if it is implemented. Real > regular expressions support would solve all those problems but that's > probably overkill. It

Re: [arch-general] pacman.conf: can I use wildcards?

2010-02-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:51:40 +0100 schrieb Attila : > Oh, so if someone use 'usr/lib/*' than the lib of every new or > updated package will get installed with the '.pacnew' ending? Right, that's what NoUpgrade in pacman.conf does. ;-) Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Unable to upgrade

2010-02-20 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:23:36 +0100 schrieb John Black : > 64bit support for proprietary software, on Linux, is disgustingly bad. What about asking those developers of proprietary software to release x86_64 builds, too? If nobody complains, they won't never change anything. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Unable to upgrade

2010-02-20 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:25:11 -0700 schrieb Brendan Long : > Why not just install the 32 bit version then? 64 bit Linux can run 32 > bit programs.. No, it can't. This is only possible with multilib (lib32-*) support. So you need to install every library twice to be able to run 32 bit software. Gr

Re: [arch-general] Unable to upgrade

2010-02-20 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:25:11 -0700 schrieb Brendan Long : > Why not just install the 32 bit version then? 64 bit Linux can run 32 > bit programs.. Btw., I don't see any good reasons why developers of proprietary software couldn't build x86_64 packages. They should only need to compile their softw

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:28:24 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > I mentioned this several months ago and got no response so I will > post again. If there are no objections in 48 hours, the rebuilds > will start hitting [testing]. > > FS#12890 suggests cleaning some of the packages from the base group.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:23:16 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > And cryptsetup definitely needs to stay in [core] and in the base > group because this is needed for encrypting hard disks, which is > supported by AIF anyway. And cryptsetup is needed at boot time and > during the installat

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:28:46 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > bsdtar can be used for that purpose. Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Greetings, Heiko

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-26 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:31:36 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > We don't need rp-pppoe in base (IMO not even in core, but others > disagree). I disagree because configuring a pppoe client with pure ppp is far too complicated. For people who haven't got a router and establish their DSL connections d

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Clean up the base group

2010-02-27 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:18:32 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang : > Rp-pppoe doesn't need to stay in base to remain in core though. It > should be available to install via CD-ROM if it's in core. Can the rp-pppoe scripts also be run from the LiveCD's shell before starting the installation if it's not in ba

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts hack-a-thon?

2010-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:28:15 -0300 schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi : > haha, just today, I added all [initscripts] (categorized) tasks in > the Bug Day TODO wiki page > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bug_Day_TODO#.5Binitscripts.5D You forgot FS#15016 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15016). It

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts hack-a-thon?

2010-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:25:55 +0100 schrieb Heiko Baums : > FS#15016 is for real key files on a formatted USB stick. FS#11648 is > for reading key files as raw data from a formatted or unformatted USB > stick. Sorry, I mixed up both FS numbers. FS#11648 is of course for real key f

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