On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:47:33 -0800
Don deJuan wrote:
If anyone has any other tips/suggestions I am open to them. Thanks for
your time.
I know nothing about the binary blob on arch but download the more
upto date blob from nvidia.com for my TVs running mythbuntu, MCE etc..
Are you installing
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:27:46 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I know today, but dependency hell still
is an issue, even for Arch.
Gnome was going to depend on Linux, precluding it from the BSDs and I
guess custom kernels. Blanket dependencies have been regarded as
one of the biggest problems with
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:54:08 +
Clive Cooper wrote:
IMHO it is not the worst thing to separate /bin and /usr/bin ;-)
https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6
Ah good a public thread, my message to the dev list got bounced.
As a new user to
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:27 +0100
Tom Gundersen wrote:
udev should never, ever mount stuff itself. This is dangerous and
explicitly not supported. Consider using systemd, udisks or another
daemon for this purpose. For more info about this, see the recent
discussion on the linux-hotplug
http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/alerts/sudo_debug.html
Is sudo on arch built with?
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
I couldn't find it in makepkg.conf anyway?
--
Kc
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:36:54 +0200
Ionut Biru wrote:
I couldn't find it in makepkg.conf anyway?
maybe you didn't merge makepkg.conf.pacnew.
It is there. I did a more /FORT rather than grep and it was
on the first page and so said wasn't found. When I actually compared it
to my build
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:43:37 +0100
Tom Gundersen wrote:
E.g. who is making sure the disk is unmounted before it
is unplugged
(yanking it out whilst mounting/fsck'ing does not sound like a good idea btw)?
Yeah, I found this out, of course nothing is psychic and can prepare
for that but you do
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:31:17 +
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
Glad I've found this. It seems there is a difference here between
OpenBSD and Arches more. On OpenBSD it searches what's displayed too.
I'll use less from now on it's better anyway
--
Kc
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:37:20 +0100
Karol Blazewicz wrote:
It is there. I did a more /FORT rather than grep
It seems there is a difference here between OpenBSD and Arches more.
more +/FORT /etc/makepkg.conf works as expected, but indeed searching
while viewing yields 'pattern not found'
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:40:48 +
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
E.g. who is making sure the disk is unmounted before it
is unplugged
(yanking it out whilst mounting/fsck'ing does not sound like a good idea
btw)?
Yeah, I found this out, of course nothing is psychic and can prepare
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:49:29 +
P Nikolic wrote:
Right after a bit of hunting the location is /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup
I have added it will see what happens next reboot
If that doesn't work, try an autostart file or cronjob.
--
Kc
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:42:20 +0800
Leon Feng wrote:
Maybe there is something wrong with ConsoleKit, KDM will take care of
it automatically.
Without a display manager, some time in the last few months you now
seem to have to add permissions for shutdown and suspend to console kit.
Variations
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:42:15 +0100
Florian Pritz wrote:
You should read pacman.conf(5) PACKAGE AND DATABASE SIGNATURE CHECKING
and use Optional PackageRequired
Quick question and I'm guessing the answer will be just to wait and
that's fine.
There are just a few packages preventing me from
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:11:03 +0100
FGr wrote:
chroot /mnt/lx/ /bin/zsh
grub-install /dev/sda [--recheck]
You could manually check there's an initrd line in the .cfg in /boot
after too.
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:07:55 -0500
Nicholas MIller wrote:
please correct me if I'm wrong but running each service as it's own user
without access to anything it doesn't need it's what you mean? and this
might be a stupid ? but do you agree with your statement still if I need to
use nfs
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:59:29 -0400
Kaiting Chen wrote:
There's really no reason you need another VM for each of those services.
Make sure you have proper privilege separation and you should be fine.
--Kaiting.
It would be best to use chroot or use an RBAC too to prevent priviledge
escalation,
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:10:12 -0400
Kaiting Chen wrote:
Yeah run each service as an unprivileged user and you should be fine. If
security is very critical than run something like SELinux or a similar RBAC
system.
If you don't mind compiling a kernel, grsecurity and it's accompanying
rbac or
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:20:01 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
In that case they'll use whatever udisks2 uses, yes.
Does udisk2 support custom filesystem options? Though to be honest I'll
probably stick with my udev rules anyway as I much prefer guaranteed
easy to type directory names like
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:17:08 -0500
Nicholas MIller wrote:
OpenBSD is my favourite option for servers but not for nfsv4. Do you
need file locking or can you use something like sftp (ssh file
transfer)?
why don't you like OpenBSD for nfs?
OpenBSD only supports nfsv3. I don't think nfs
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:20:43 +0100
Andrea Crotti wrote:
All USB ports work perfectly on this machine as far as I can tell.
I now tried all three ports and exactly same results.
Can it be something in the kernel? Or maybe UDEV configuration (which
I guess
should come at a later stage,
With more and more distros and even android employing gccs -fpie for
building packages, should Arch consider enabling it.
For my users it would mean less programs being killed by the
grsecurity kernel due to text relocation attempts. No complaints yet as
I have a sandboxed flash browser but
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:58:36 +0200
Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
(especially on 32bit).
Slightly on 32bit and almost no difference on 64bit. OpenBSD uses PIEs
everywhere and my x86 users say everythings much quicker than Windows.
Fair enough though as long as you do have a good understanding of the
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:49:21 +1000
Allan McRae wrote:
Slightly on 32bit and almost no difference on 64bit. OpenBSD uses PIEs
everywhere and my x86 users say everythings much quicker than Windows.
Care to define slightly... I looked into this when we added some
hardening to our
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:37:29 +0200
Karol Blazewicz wrote:
seems to hang forever unless you run 'updtedb' or something so the
entropy problem should be covered, as suggested in [2].
Maybe something like haveged would fix that but the OpenBSD devs
weren't that impressed with it.
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:39:46 +0900
Vladimir Lomov wrote:
(another question raises: why two
variants? why not just '/bin/false' or '/sbin/nologin'?
Qmail uses true. nologin has some customisable functionality such as
displaying a message. It mainly comes down to the source/maintainer.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:49:26 +0200
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
Gentoo might make systemd the default init system in the future. Nobody
can say if and when this could heppen but this is clearly possible for
OpenRC to become a Gentoo init system _alternative_.
This is why I think that switching
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:08:34 +0200
Jan Steffens wrote:
We are going to sacrifice, simplicity, amount of code to look for bugs
and most importantly, ease of troubleshooting. One of the beauties of
Unix is the error information. Aren't they all going to be mixed
together on systemd. Imagine
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:58:01 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
but if it just hangs without a panic
I still like KISS for init but thinking about it, The chances of that
are I'd guess next to none, once the drivers are loaded?
I presume you will be able to get to this journal information even
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0500
C Anthony Risinger wrote:
bloat is not measured by LOC, but rather by degrees of uselessness.
I disagree here. If many don't use/need those features aside from an
init system initialising things then it is bloat and will have bugs
that will even affect
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:27:49 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
Just a piece of information: the way kernel modules are loaded is not
changed, currently they are (for most intents and purposes) loaded at
once.
I didn't know that, annoying. There aren't that many though as I
manually enable them
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:12:15 -0500
C Anthony Risinger wrote:
yeah ... i'm a C novice, and i'm pretty sure i can write a stable init
... that's kinda the point. init is so incredibly dumb that it
requires no code. is that really what unix philosophy is meant to
convey? so little code and
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0200
Gour wrote:
we did embrace LaTeX/LyX etc.
To get the benefit of your experience. Do you use Lyx as your editor or
something else.
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:22:42 +0200
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
In my opinion, if I have to start hacking random C to add or adapt
features (which happens as soon as the builtins do the wrong things -
that's about twice a year for me) it'll be a lot more crashy than a
simple shell script
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:59:02 +0530
Jayesh Badwaik wrote:
You are very correct, master documents should always be plain text. The
generated documents can be binary however. Also, there should be a fallback
system where the plain text documents are used rather than binary documents
so that
On Wed, 2 May 2012 09:57:43 +0200
Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
freerapid or minitube
youtube-dl is a commandline one in arch and mint repos and keeps the
source file. Mini-tube is cool and saves copying the url but converts it
to mp4, as if everyone wants to use mp4 and conversions equal data loss.
On Wed, 02 May 2012 14:47:34 -0400
Calvin Morrison wrote:
does anyone know how to start the car?
Find the pointy metal thing probably in pocket.conf and put it in the
port next to the steering wheel and turn it on. If that fails you might
have to push I'm afraid.
p.s. Diesel for trucks and
On Wed, 2 May 2012 22:04:58 +0200
Marek Otahal wrote:
did that, maybe a mirror delay then. Or that i'm on 32bit?
No hurry, just sayin' if it went unnoticed
Try another mirror?
Hi, all
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/;
I answered yes to the switch to udisks2 and now the mount point only
shows for a split second in Nautilus. The device still shows but now
I've lost unmount access via sudo too, my scripts clean up on
disconnect so
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:19:27 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
Please don't take this guy seriously.
Though he's working on something that seems to fix some of the...
oversights shall we say of udisks.
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:43:03 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
I couldn't find a reference. Do you have a link? As far as I'm aware,
the only real complaint against udisks2 is that they don't supply
commandline tools with a stable API. However, the dbus api is stable,
so it would be trivial for a
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:43:03 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
As far as I'm aware,
the only real complaint against udisks2 is that they don't supply
commandline tools with a stable API
The docs are attrocious which doesn't help, even the online ones.
They seem to be using polkit because it adds
On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:59:05 +0300
Ionut Biru wrote:
I'm a bit confused. Where did you answer yes ? I'm just asking because I
did not replaced anything with udisks2.
Maybe it asked some other questions completely unrelated (2 I think), it
broke immediately after an update including this
On Fri, 4 May 2012 13:38:27 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
udisks doesn't use mount and so I'm forced to look at the mess which is
polkit and udisks
After editing three files (two ineffectual), polkit is atleast
unmounting, but before I could look at what that actually means in
terms of what can
On Mon, 07 May 2012 22:40:01 +0800
XeCycle wrote:
Violations of this philosophy can be easily found. The Linux
kernel is such one. It is already big, with many misfeatures, or
anitfeatures; but we all use it, right? Linus said such a
design simplifies the intercommunication between kernel
On Mon, 7 May 2012 17:39:35 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
An event-driven init system would turn this on its head, and never
wait for all the things to be ready, rather start things on-demand
and whenever their dependencies are satisfied. This leads to a much
simpler system (from the
On Wed, 9 May 2012 10:58:01 +0200
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
And dbus will be part of the kernel, soon.
So, what you call silly dependencies *are the core* of a Linux system.
So is that sentiment, we'll force it upon you. How lovely.
You have read all the security papers about dbus, right?
On Wed, 09 May 2012 19:45:51 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
On occasions I have had to resort to editing shell init scripts because
I don't agree with the distro or devs. People shouldn't be forced to
Gentoo and damaging the environment.
Wat :)
I presume you got distracted and meant to
On Sat, 12 May 2012 16:47:36 +0200
Julius Adorf wrote:
I wonder whether there is any better (i.e. reliable)
solution to this problem?
until mounted (grep /proc/mounts); do sleep 5 mount
Where do you store the key anyway?
On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:01:05 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
Where do you store the key anyway?
Sorry didn't read your message carefully. I assumed it was a system
drive as you were using rc. Why not use a udev rule as дамјан mentioned.
That's what systemd would use anyway. Or even a simple button
On Fri, 25 May 2012 11:07:24 +0200
Heiko Baums wrote:
Like I've written in my first e-mail this didn't help me.
mirror.bytemark.co.uk has the 3.3.6 package too from the 13th I think.
Newest package I saw very quickly so take with a grain of salt was from
the 21st.
I'd work down from the root
On Fri, 25 May 2012 12:26:02 +0200
Jakob Wadsager wrote:
The mirrors that sync of
uk2[1]
Syncing Demand probably explains why UK2 was sometimes slow late at
night (early morning).
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 01:06:34 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
Check out all the manpages that come with systemd (there are a lot of them).
I hope they are mainly for extra functionality.
I've never ever had to look at anything but the init scripts
themselves to configure the init scripts on OpenBSD.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:35:15 +1000
John Briggs wrote:
MS Windows needs secure boot because it is subject to so many malware
attacks, Arch Linux does not.
Not true. MS needs it more and may well have other motives for how it
is designed like stopping customers from going back to the
shop and
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:21:14 -0500
David C. Rankin wrote:
In
the mean time, I can just hack the init script to get it started,
The question would be, doest that pose a greater security risk.
Have you tried using -u nut.
If that fails I'd use systrace (strace on Linux) or something to see why
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:34:01 +0800
Bill Sun wrote:
VPS provider info
Sometimes they will have or attach upon request a KVM that you can
connect to usually via crappy JAVA?
arpnetworks.com have serial over ssh etc.. too
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:12:23 +0300
Tasos Latsas wrote:
Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news :
systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate
/usr ?
This is documented here [1] and I don't think it was introduced in the
recent
convert from MBR to GPT. I understand GPT is more convenient,
As an exercise for the future for some OSs to use 2TB fair enough but
if your doing it for convenience, please explain because MBR has become
a proper well tested cross platform standard and GPT won't according
to a recent thread on
Still looking for a good pointer for building my own Kernel 4.2 wjth
comprehensive explanations of each sub menu of menu config.
We can dream for comprehensive. I presume you know about uncommenting
in PKGBUILD and/or using the new nconfig or xconfig and the search
functions etc..
You still
It reports a problem
reading /boot partition saying something about it being not a valid ext2
I see /boot is ext4
There was a time recently when a kernel bug gave invalid warnings about
other filesystem types like ext2, ext3 before mounting ext4 so it could
be a red herring, is the exact error
Yeah by vanilla I mean the stock kernel. I dont get what do you mean by:
be a red herring, is the exact error gone too quick to note.
red herring as in possibly false or irrelevent error message.
is the exact error gone too quick to note.
Does it flash up before you can get a picture or
... this will build you a kernel with only the bare minimum needed to
fulfill your current state; any modules not loaded at this time will
not be built. you may still need to configure other features
unrelated to modules.
I'd be interested to know what size your kernel is when you do that. I
And
then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must conform to your
standards, which by the way something like cups also fails. Man, I can't
believe my office photocopier can't print out stapled copies using cups, it
shouldn't be called a standard until it can do that
ANYONE can
Can you please give me some pro/against reasons for using Debian distro
rather than Archlinux as a web server?
If I was running arch because I wanted greater control or a more
specific setup, I would certainly either use something like ideally a
CARP firewall or if not possible, taking the
I have a once-a-month scheduled reboot to take care of kernel upgrades. I
hold back linux and udev, because they tend to rely on each other.
I would have thought you could schedule a reboot via at that very night
for 4 in the morning or something. The reason I say this is that apart
from
I've
just tried to run systemd-tmpfiles manually and it seems that it is
not able to do even a simple task such as rm -rf /tmp/*.
For my own understanding is it possible to add an exec line to these
systemd files like for the inittab replacements getty.service so that
you can add anything you
OK guys. When I bought my ssd, I read too that this story of short
lifetime is a myth. As it is now clear to me that writing /var/log into
RAM is a totally fullish idea in case of crash, I am back to my original
fstab, with no entry for /var/log.
I will then take my time to understand
I believe this is correct. However, I would point out that I had to
disable tmpfs on my Linode because it was taking too much memory.
What are you doing that uses so much memory? I enable a small memory
filesystem that doesn't grow for /tmp on my web servers. You just have
to configure the
There is a configuration file in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d named tmp.conf
which can be copied to /etc/conf.d and modified as needed.
I meant a place for any shell incarnation though not a rigid??
pre-ordained facility.
- From what I've been able to piece together, one can then run
There is a configuration file in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d named tmp.conf
which can be copied to /etc/conf.d and modified as needed.
I meant a place for any shell incarnation though not a rigid??
pre-ordained facility.
Nothing has changed in this respect. If you want to add your own
I'm really not sure what you are asking here, so bear with me...
The tmpfiles.d fragment is documented in the tmpfiles.d(5)[0] and the
tmpfiles utility is documented in systemd-tmpfiles(8)[1].
Both in systemd and initscripts we call /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles
--clean to clean up old files.
Boot from the LiveCD and chroot to your system
I have already done that (having followed the relevant Archbang wiki)
but, once I attempt to install anything, I get this:
error: GPGME error: Bad file descriptor
error: xorg-server: missing required signature
error: failed to commit
I have to enter my password every
time I open KmyMoney
First check if gpg-agent is running
/bin/ps -aux | /usr/bin/grep gpg
sighup will make it forget a password which any program may send and how
long it remembers is configurable.
On 06/22/2012 02:09 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I have to enter my password every
time I open KmyMoney
First check if gpg-agent is running
/bin/ps -aux | /usr/bin/grep gpg
sighup will make it forget a password which any program may send and how
long it remembers is configurable
I get nothing with this command.
Your programs will likely ignore the agent and use gpg directly
using the password once without an environment variable.
You should have the GPG_AGENT_INFO environment variable already setup as
the third box in this link does. You can fix it quite easily but
This did the trick for me.
Oh and you are correct, I switched from XFCE to Openbox.
Thanks for the help!
I recently had trouble modifying the local users environment even
though I did it on another system about a week ago and just whacked it
in /etc/environment to save time.
How you
If you are not comfortable with vimdiff, you can try meld. It is graphical,
though.
Diffuse is pretty cool too and kdiff3 for folders. Just to be clear I
wouldn't give a gui program root for the final install though.
--
Why not do
Am I the only one?
Worked for me a while back but their mail server failed RFC compliance
and so the confirmation failed getting through my greylisting. There's a
new RFC that's very clear on greylisting apparently so that should
hopefully sort itself out.
Last time I tried I got the must be
I like the dual screen
interface, and think I will stick to it. I will maybe add an entry in
the *Pacnew and Pacsave* *files*, as I think a list of most used
shortcuts could be explained.
Would be good if you copied that to this thread?
--
On 06/25/2012 02:42 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I like the dual screen
interface, and think I will stick to it. I will maybe add an entry in
the *Pacnew and Pacsave* *files*, as I think a list of most used
shortcuts could be explained.
Would be good if you copied that to this thread
If I understand it right, in Setup Mode, you can either boot any
non-signed operating system, or you can import your own keys into the
firmware, so that you can sign your own bootloaders. For me, this is
enough to not care about Secure Boot.
I didn't know key replacement was a
We
already know, that UEFI can't be disabled for every hardware :(.
I wonder if they don't want Android on shiny Nokia hardware. Poor N9 I
was looking forward to a future with, I get mixed up now, Meego?.
I believe most Androids let you install your own OS if you invalidate
the warranty.
--
Yep, no issue for me, my mobos will be based on Intel or AMD.
IMO it's not mainly about you or me, though I'm all for making it
easier to use your own keys, heck I can build my own hardware and I
expect BIOS choice will be the answer.
I ask myself would it have stopped me using Unix. Probably
I am following this thread, and honestly, who needs to dual boot today?
Most of my systems are single OS but I have a system with atleast 6 OS's
on it and over 10 virtual images on one of them. Granted a couple of the
Os's could be cleaned out now, but only a couple.
On another system I have a
I understand that given Microsoft's record in the past, some of you are
worried, but when looking in the specifications (as Thomas already
pointed out) it is quite clear that Microsoft wants to do the right
thing here.
Personally I couldn't come up with a better way/infrastructure than the
idea of having a server edition of AL ready to deploy and forgot about it
because Arch rocks
Have you considered flavours like mail, web.
A recent thread showed atleast one person who probably would have liked
an out of the box web arch?
--
Having looked again at the fsfs campaign.
We, the undersigned, urge all computer makers implementing UEFI's
so-called Secure Boot to do it in a way that allows free software
operating systems to be installed. To respect user freedom and truly
protect user security, manufacturers must either
Ensuring users can add keys and allowing multiboot and reasonably easy
usage of livecds without disabling secureboot all together should be
the current campaign.
And openbios installation. I wonder if Dell will only allow Dell
Windows?
--
Have you considered flavours like mail, web.
A recent thread showed atleast one person who probably would have liked
an out of the box web arch?
Sorry Kevin, I don't follow you.
probably because it's completely off the radar and probably projects
in themselves especially as
Putting GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in my default grub, then running a
new grub.cfg. Reboot and the message went away, though in the console
the text is huge. I have seen no actual fix for this and have read
that Nvidia is not even sure how or why it broke.
If it wasn't huge before then you
After lots of reading, especially *Nvidia* official readme, it seems
this card SUPPORTS indded *Vesafb*. So I think this error message has
nothing to do here, and I will keep my *grub* file as it was first.
Vesafb is a standard that all cards are meant to support since decades.
Running both
After lots of reading, especially *Nvidia* official readme, it seems
this card SUPPORTS indded *Vesafb*. So I think this error message has
nothing to do here, and I will keep my *grub* file as it was first.
Vesafb is a standard that all cards are meant to support since decades.
Running both
Maybe they have more 3d nouveau features enabled than default,
but I doubt it, anyone know.
There's a second stage nouveau Xorg driver. It may be that? Anyone use
that and not have a delay switching to console?
--
Why not do
I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give
it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days.
Cheers,
Ronald
[replying in arch-general]
Is there anything special that users of [testing] need to do to keep
things booting ok (UEFI
No, it supports the vesa standard. All cards do. But that's completely
different
from vesafb, a linux driver.
Your right and you cleared up the confusion somewhbut that's a little
unfair. I believe all cards MUST support VESA. The vesafb driver isn't
supported directly but it uses the VESA
My setup was with dcron and ntp.
Considering servers don't get chance to run the RTC battery down. I've
never understood why everyone uses NTP which is an unneeded
security risk anyway (OpenBSDs ain't bad). Do we think, in 1938-1945 men
couldn't synchronise watches without NTP? Saves checking I
TY for help and hints, as PAM and shadow are both quite obscure to me
when it comes to configure.
Needlessly too and it's not on it's own.
Unix philosophy of write programs that do one thing and do it well.
Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams,
because that
My setup was with dcron and ntp.
Considering servers don't get chance to run the RTC battery down. I've
never understood why everyone uses NTP which is an unneeded
security risk anyway (OpenBSDs ain't bad). Do we think, in 1938-1945 men
couldn't synchronise watches without NTP? Saves
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:26:57 +0200
Olav Vitters wrote:
You have command line tools for gconf as well as dconf:
gconftool-2
gsettings
That's two interfaces that depend on installed binaries and you haven't
listed them all yet, not only is the syntax rediculously long compared
to for example
it sure isn't for consumer hardware.
They could use better use of crystals in the main like watches but I
think they are good enough for all except corner cases. One guy on the
android list said research had come out with an average of two second
slide sqew per week or something rediculous and
Watches are perfectly acceptable time keepers especially considering I
have a cheap watch stuffed in a drawer that I was surprised hasn't lost
seconds in years. RTC: I'm fairly sure many older ones don't even have
crystals but are probably still good enough, though I have no
accurate
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