Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-17 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/11/2018 05:32 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > I don't know what the hiccup was, but for this box it was a death sentence. No > linker modules updated, only 2 out of 16 post install processes run. That > really leaves you in a bad way... > Well, it seems it was an issue and not just a hiccup.

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/13/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > Like I said, this can be done from any system which has pacman and > mkinitcpio available. That means: > > 1) Arch Linux > 2) Gentoo, which has a pacman package and IIRC also provides mkinitcpio >as an option

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/13/2018 09:47 AM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:41:46AM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> On 03/13/2018 12:30 AM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: >>> Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into >>> it. It's what I

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Leonid Isaev via arch-general
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:41:46AM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 03/13/2018 12:30 AM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: > > Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into > > it. It's what I do, and it takes about five minutes to create. > > > >

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/13/2018 12:30 AM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: > Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into > it. It's what I do, and it takes about five minutes to create. > > https://ramsdenj.com/2016/06/23/arch-linux-on-zfs-part-1-embed-zfs-in-archiso.html Yes, and it

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Kyle Bassett via arch-general
Hi Carsten, I'm glad you ended up posting this to the list. Very useful info, even if I never end up using it. The rest of this thread has some great content too. Thanks all! On Mar 11, 2018 21:03, "Carsten Mattner via arch-general" < arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote: > On 3/11/18, David

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread John Ramsden via arch-general
Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into it. It's what I do, and it takes about five minutes to create. https://ramsdenj.com/2016/06/23/arch-linux-on-zfs-part-1-embed-zfs-in-archiso.html -- John Ramsden On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Eli Schwartz via

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/12/2018 11:07 PM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: > For anyone not happy with dkms, the archzfs repo [1] offers great > support for ZFS in binary form, and I've been using it for a few > years now with no problems. The most important part of using zfs is installing it. Especially

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread John Ramsden via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > What's wrong with btrfs? Yeah, I know it is not marked "stable", but this > is just a label. And people shying away from it doesn't help in

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Leonid Isaev via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:17:21PM +, Carsten Mattner wrote: > On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > > What's wrong with btrfs? Yeah, I know it is not marked "stable", but this > > is just a label. And people shying away from it doesn't help in

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
Sorry for letting gmail butcher wrapping/breaks. Someone at Google needs to be demoted for that anti-feature. I should remember to never edit in gmail's text box but use my normal editor as usual.

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
It almost looks like filesystem development doesn't fit Linux kernel development style of iterating constantly and evolving with time. btrfs has had the same time as zfs had in-house at Oracle before it was declared publicly stable, and there are still buggy/unfinished corners. If you look at

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/12/18, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:24:37PM +, Carsten Mattner via arch-general > wrote: >> On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general >> wrote: >> > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/12/2018 06:57 PM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: >> I'll stay away from it, thanks. I saw that Alpine Linux has good ZFS >> support, but I didn't do anything serious with it. When it comes to >> filesystems, I'm conservative, EXT4 and XFS on Linux. It's a pity >> there's no modern

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Leonid Isaev via arch-general
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:24:37PM +, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > >> I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/12/18, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: >> I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past observations >> of needlessly heated arguments and ZFS, due to its license splitting >> the Linux

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/11/2018 10:00 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > I'm happy to hear that. My rationale is based on past observations > of needlessly heated arguments and ZFS, due to its license splitting > the Linux community in half, appearing to be perfect fuel for such > a thread. > > Thanks

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/11/2018 08:03 PM, Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > Hi David, > > so in the end you were able to boot off usb, right? > > Also, the nightmare you had to work through can be avoided on servers > where you run illumos or FreeBSD by way of ZFS boot environments (BE). > Basically, it's

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/12/18, Celti Burroughs via arch-general wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:04:14 + > Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > >> Or I actually did post it to the list by accident. >> >> Please don't flame me for mention ZFS boot

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread Celti Burroughs via arch-general
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:04:14 + Carsten Mattner via arch-general wrote: > Or I actually did post it to the list by accident. > > Please don't flame me for mention ZFS boot environments as a technique > available for FOSS servers. > > On 3/12/18, Carsten Mattner

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
Or I actually did post it to the list by accident. Please don't flame me for mention ZFS boot environments as a technique available for FOSS servers. On 3/12/18, Carsten Mattner wrote: > On 3/11/18, David C. Rankin wrote: > >> This was

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread Carsten Mattner via arch-general
On 3/11/18, David C. Rankin wrote: > This was a nightmare. It's not a CD problem, it's a problem with the system > seeing the CD Label and/or creating the /dev/disk/by-label directory in > time for the link to be created. Hi David, so in the end you were able to

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/11/2018 04:08 PM, Guus Snijders via arch-general wrote: > Op zo 11 mrt. 2018 21:29 schreef David C. Rankin < > drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com>: > >> All, >> >> I experienced a hard lockup during kernel update to 4.15.8 on a >> Supermicro >> Dual Opteron Quad-core box. >> > [cd problem] >

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-11 Thread Guus Snijders via arch-general
Op zo 11 mrt. 2018 21:29 schreef David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com>: > All, > > I experienced a hard lockup during kernel update to 4.15.8 on a > Supermicro > Dual Opteron Quad-core box. > [cd problem] Just to make sure; can you run a memtest on this machine? It's a bit of a