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1. Re: Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the Size of the ARIN
Board of Trustees (vinton cerf)
2. Re: Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the Size of the ARIN
Board of Trustees (Andrew Dul)
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:04:29 -0400
From: vinton cerf <vgc...@gmail.com>
To: David Farmer <far...@umn.edu>
Cc: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the
Size of the ARIN Board of Trustees
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David, that's a very interesting way to try to reach many of our goals for
Board make up and perhaps gives useful guidance to the nominating committee.
vint
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:13 PM, David Farmer <far...@umn.edu> wrote:
> I am not opposed to the idea of expanding the board, a change from six to
> nine elected board members with the CEO as an ex officio member seems
> reasonable to me. However, I cannot support the current proposal as
> written. The primary flaw I see in the current proposal is that it simply
> expands the board without modifying how the board is selected. I believe
> the issue at hand is as much about how the board is selected as much as it
> is about the size of the board.
>
> Currently, a combined slate of candidates is proposed by the nominating
> committee for the two board positions up for election each year, and the
> two candidates with the most votes from the combined slate are selected.
> This sometimes degrades into a popularity contest. Name recognition plays
> as big a role as the qualifications of a candidate in determining who
> prevails, potentially leaving the board without necessary expertise even
> though the slate may have included candidates with the necessary
> expertise. Just adding another position selected by this same process,
> selecting
> the three candidates with the most votes from the combined slate, I fear
> will only have a nominal effect on the composition of the board, and simply
> result in a larger board with many of the same issues.
>
> In addition to expanding the board, I suggest each of the three board
> positions up for election have a separate slate of two or more candidates
> each year, instead of the current process with it's combined slate.
> This allows the nominating committee, with advice from the board, to select
> candidates with the expertise needed by the board to compete for a single
> position and ensure a candidate with the necessary expertise will prevail
> in the election. I don't think criteria for each position should be
> enshrined in the bylaws, as the needs of the board will change and evolve
> over time, but many of the issues discussed recently should be considered;
> sector representation, organization types, etc...
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM, ARIN <memb...@arin.net> wrote:
>
>> (You are only receiving this final version.)
>>
>> In May 2017, the ARIN Board of Trustees proposed expansion of the size of
>> the Board of Trustees in order to increase opportunities for diversity in
>> the background of Board members, including geographical and gender
>> representation. This proposal was the topic of an energetic community
>> consultation with mixed outcome indicating both support and concerns with
>> such a change. The ARIN Board considered the outcome of the consultation,
>> but ultimately the measure did not achieve the four-fifths approval
>> threshold necessary for changing ARIN's Bylaws.
>>
>> In February of this year, the ARIN Board discussed an additional issue
>> related to the present size of the Board: specifically, the challenge that
>> a smaller Board poses when engaging in strategic discussions, for example
>> in regard to long-term direction or relationships with other Internet
>> organizations. While many of these topics are discussed with the community
>> prior to decision (e.g. formation of the NRO, support for the IANA
>> Stewardship Transition), it is often up to the ARIN Board of Trustees to
>> decide whether to explore these initiatives when they are at an early
>> stage. There is a very wide diversity of the Internet ecosystem that can be
>> affected by ARIN's strategic direction and this includes Internet service
>> providers of all sizes and types (transit, access, etc.), Internet online
>> and content industries, data center and cloud operators, educational and
>> government networks, commercial firms, and civil society. While the
>> Trustees elected by the community often have a bro
>> ad knowledge of the Internet ecosystem, seven Trustees is a relatively
>> small group to evaluate impacts across the entire Internet ecosystem.
>>
>> As a result of this discussion, the ARIN Board agreed to initiate a new
>> community consultation to expand the number of elected Board members from
>> six to nine, in order to allow for wider representation of the Internet
>> community during Board discussions.
>> Board proposal:
>>
>> ARIN should add three more elected voting seats to the Board of Trustees,
>> raising the current six (two elected per year) to nine (three elected per
>> year). New Board seats are to be added to the Board in a phased manner -
>> one per year in the 2018 thru 2020 elections as noted below
>> * October 2018: 3 Board members will be elected for 2019; 8 Trustee
>> board (9 if the appointed seat is used)
>> * October 2019: 3 Board members will be elected for 2020; 9 Trustee
>> board (10 if the appointed seat is used)
>> * October 2020: 3 Board members will be elected for 2021; 10
>> Trustee board (11 if the appointed seat is used)
>>
>> The link to the proposed Bylaws amendment necessary to effect such a
>> change can be viewed at: https://www.arin.net/about_us/
>> bot/20180216/exhibit_e.pdf
>>
>> We are seeking community feedback on this proposed change to the size of
>> the ARIN Board of Trustees. This consultation will remain open for at least
>> 30 days.
>>
>> Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net. You can subscribe to
>> this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult
>> .
>>
>> Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net will close on 14 May 2018.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please contact us at i...@arin.net.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:21:07 -0700
From: Andrew Dul <andrew....@quark.net>
To: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the
Size of the ARIN Board of Trustees
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David,
You have enumerated an idea that I have been considering writing about
the past couple of days after reading through some of the comments on
this consultation.? That is if the board believes that they need some
sort of skill or representation that should be expressed through having
the board notate to the nomcom the skills/representation needed and then
candidates with those skills/representation would be placed onto the
ballot with candidates of similar skills/representation.
Practically this might look like (assuming no change in board size)
Board Seat #1 (board requests candidate with financial skills) -
Candidate A, Candidate B
Board Seat #2 (board requests candidate with representation for large
provider/cdn space) - Candidate C, Candidate D
The membership would then select either Candidate A or B for seat #1 and
similarly for seat #2.
This does not provide for breadth or depth of skill/representation for
which the board is not aware it needs, but does provide the membership
an opportunity to express their preference for a candidate within a
subset of candidates which meets a need or desire.? This does give more
responsibility to the nomcom, so other changes to the nomcom maybe
needed to facilitate this responsibility.?
I too am not strictly opposed to growing the board size, but am inclined
to not support just a growth in the size of the board without other
changes to how board members are elected.
Andrew
On 4/10/2018 1:04 PM, vinton cerf wrote:
> David, that's a very interesting way to try to reach many of our goals
> for Board make up and perhaps gives useful guidance to the nominating
> committee.
>
> vint
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:13 PM, David Farmer <far...@umn.edu
> <mailto:far...@umn.edu>> wrote:
>
> I am not opposed to the idea of expanding?the board, a change from
> six to nine elected board members with the CEO as an ex
> officio?member?seems reasonable to me. However, I cannot support
> the current proposal as written.? The primary flaw I see in the
> current proposal is that it simply expands the board without
> modifying how the board is selected. I believe the issue at hand
> is as much about how the board is selected as much as it is about
> the size of the board.
>
> Currently, a combined slate of candidates is proposed by the
> nominating committee for the two board positions up for election
> each year, and the two candidates with the most votes from the
> combined?slate?are selected. This sometimes degrades into a
> popularity contest.? Name recognition plays as big a role as the
> qualifications of a candidate in determining who prevails,
> potentially leaving the board without necessary expertise even
> though the slate may have included candidates?with the
> necessary?expertise.? Just adding another position selected?by
> this same process,?selecting the three?candidates with the most
> votes from the combined slate,?I fear will only have a nominal
> effect on the composition?of the board, and simply result?in a
> larger board with many of the same issues.
>
> In addition?to expanding the?board, I suggest each of the three
> board positions up for election have a separate?slate of?two or
> more candidates each year, instead of?the current process with
> it's combined slate. This?allows the nominating committee, with
> advice from the board, to select candidates?with the expertise
> needed by the board to compete for a single position and ensure
> a?candidate?with the necessary expertise?will prevail in the
> election. I don't think?criteria for each position should be
> enshrined in the bylaws, as the needs of the board will change and
> evolve over time, but many of the issues discussed recently should
> be considered; sector representation, organization?types, etc...
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM, ARIN <memb...@arin.net
> <mailto:memb...@arin.net>> wrote:
>
> (You are only receiving this final version.)
>
> In May 2017, the ARIN Board of Trustees proposed expansion of
> the size of the Board of Trustees in order to increase
> opportunities for diversity in the background of Board
> members, including geographical and gender representation.
> This proposal was the topic of an energetic community
> consultation with mixed outcome indicating both support and
> concerns with such a change. The ARIN Board considered the
> outcome of the consultation, but ultimately the measure did
> not achieve the four-fifths approval threshold necessary for
> changing ARIN's Bylaws.
>
> In February of this year, the ARIN Board discussed an
> additional issue related to the present size of the Board:
> specifically, the challenge that a smaller Board poses when
> engaging in strategic discussions, for example in regard to
> long-term direction or relationships with other Internet
> organizations. While many of these topics are discussed with
> the community prior to decision (e.g. formation of the NRO,
> support for the IANA Stewardship Transition), it is often up
> to the ARIN Board of Trustees to decide whether to explore
> these initiatives when they are at an early stage. There is a
> very wide diversity of the Internet ecosystem that can be
> affected by ARIN's strategic direction and this includes
> Internet service providers of all sizes and types (transit,
> access, etc.), Internet online and content industries, data
> center and cloud operators, educational and government
> networks, commercial firms, and civil society. While the
> Trustees elected by the community often have a bro
> ?ad knowledge of the Internet ecosystem, seven Trustees is a
> relatively small group to evaluate impacts across the entire
> Internet ecosystem.
>
> As a result of this discussion, the ARIN Board agreed to
> initiate a new community consultation to expand the number of
> elected Board members from six to nine, in order to allow for
> wider representation of the Internet community during Board
> discussions.
> Board proposal:
>
> ARIN should add three more elected voting seats to the Board
> of Trustees, raising the current six (two elected per year) to
> nine (three elected per year). New Board seats are to be added
> to the Board in a phased manner - one per year in the 2018
> thru 2020 elections as noted below
> *? ? ? ?October 2018: 3 Board members will be elected for
> 2019; 8 Trustee board (9 if the appointed seat is used)
> *? ? ? ?October 2019: 3 Board members will be elected for
> 2020; 9 Trustee board (10 if the appointed seat is used)
> *? ? ? ?October 2020: 3 Board members will be elected for
> 2021; 10 Trustee board (11 if the appointed seat is used)
>
> The link to the proposed Bylaws amendment necessary to effect
> such a change can be viewed at:
> https://www.arin.net/about_us/bot/20180216/exhibit_e.pdf
> <https://www.arin.net/about_us/bot/20180216/exhibit_e.pdf>
>
> We are seeking community feedback on this proposed change to
> the size of the ARIN Board of Trustees. This consultation will
> remain open for at least 30 days.
>
> Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net
> <mailto:arin-consult@arin.net>. You can subscribe to this
> mailing list at:
> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult
> <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult>.
>
> Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net
> <mailto:arin-consult@arin.net> will close on 14 May 2018.
>
> If you have any questions, please contact us at i...@arin.net
> <mailto:i...@arin.net>.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
>
> --
> ===============================================
> David Farmer? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Email:far...@umn.edu
> <mailto:email%3afar...@umn.edu>
> Networking & Telecommunication Services
> Office of Information Technology
> University of Minnesota??
> 2218 University Ave SE? ? ? ? Phone: 612-626-0815
> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029?? Cell: 612-812-9952
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