Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-03-10 Thread John Curran
On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.commailto:mpet...@netflight.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Bill Darte billda...@gmail.commailto:billda...@gmail.com wrote: ... 3. Take an alternative tack and simply restrict transfers on a per-block rather than a

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Andrew Dul
The ARIN AC would appreciate input from the community on this policy. Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? Thanks, Andrew On 3/4/2014 12:13 PM, ARIN wrote: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7 Section 4.4 Micro

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Peddemors
While on the surface this might seem prudent, it may be onerous for smaller players. More information might be needed to determine adverse cases, or possibly some exemption for rural players that might not be able to attain a 3rd participant. On 14-03-10 08:37 AM, Andrew Dul wrote: The ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Bill Darte
Oh, BTWI don't have any problem with increasing from 2 to 3, but am against it for moreand, I may be willing to carve out an exception for Caribbean communities still encumbered by limited competition. There, have a public exchange already in existence may support future competition. I'd

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
No exceptions for Caribbean. Not necessary. And not part of policy so no need to rather already. The addresses are being protected for the future, ncluding tbe Carribean. Feel free to elaborate on more, I'm interested. On Monday, March 10, 2014, Bill Darte billda...@gmail.com wrote: Oh,

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, David Huberman wrote: Michael Peddemors wrote: While on the surface this might seem prudent, it may be onerous for smaller players. More information might be needed to determine adverse cases, or possibly some exemption for rural players that might not be able to attain

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Scott Leibrand wrote: Any reason two small rural players shouldn't start with a PA /30 and renumber into a larger block if/when they get a third participant? Yes, renumbering is hard. Renumbering is even harder for rural entities that don't have tons of high end network

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Andrew Dul wrote: Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? An off-list conversation helped me clarify my concern about raising the requirement. It's not just the burden of renumbering alone

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Dul andrew@quark.net wrote: The ARIN AC would appreciate input from the community on this policy. Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? I support raising the number to