Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

On 21 Mar 2022, at 7:29 PM, John Curran mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote: On 21 Mar 2022, at 7:13 PM, Jay Hennigan mailto:j...@impulse.net>> wrote: On 3/21/22 16:03, Mike Burns wrote: Hi Martin, We once saw an ipv4 block included among hardware as part of a third party lease. That happened

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

On 21 Mar 2022, at 7:13 PM, Jay Hennigan mailto:j...@impulse.net>> wrote: On 3/21/22 16:03, Mike Burns wrote: Hi Martin, We once saw an ipv4 block included among hardware as part of a third party lease. That happened years ago and really was a one-off. Generally nobody will recognize IPv4

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

Hi Jay, The Spamhauses of the world don't allow infinite lather rinse repeat cycles. Regards, Mike On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:13:49 -0400 j...@impulse.net wrote On 3/21/22 16:03, Mike Burns wrote: > Hi Martin, > > We once saw an ipv4 block included among hardware as part of a third >

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

On 3/21/22 16:03, Mike Burns wrote: Hi Martin, We once saw an ipv4 block included among hardware as part of a third party lease. That happened years ago and really was a one-off. Generally nobody will recognize IPv4 blocks as assets. That leaves leasing-out addresses by incumbent address

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

Hi Martin, We once saw an ipv4 block included among hardware as part of a third party lease. That happened years ago and really was a one-off. Generally nobody will recognize IPv4 blocks as assets. That leaves leasing-out addresses by incumbent address holders as the only effective financing

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 10:42 Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:47 PM Scott Leibrand > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 12:39 PM Mike Burns wrote: >> >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry, I actually penned a long reply to your initial post but >>> never sent

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

Owen - Leasing being part of the "economic reality of IPv4 for the foreseeable future” is orthogonal to the ARIN registry – i.e. such an occurrence does not necessarily mean that ARIN should do either of: a) Issue additional IPv4 resources via the wait-list policy to

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised and Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

You may repeat 1000 times and still it will not become a true that when someone sell connectivity they lease IP addresses. When someone buys connectivity having an IP address is a condition for them to receive the connectivity services they are buying and the real propose of keeping IP