Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
Yes, there are always trade-offs. Nevertheless, I still think the solution to this problem requires a more holistic view of section 2. Looking at this more, I have the following suggestion; Rewrite the introductory paragraph to section 2 as follows; Networks of all sizes and types require

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM David Farmer wrote: > When I look at section 2 as a whole, I believe the term Number > Resources logically belongs near the top of the list and not near the bottom > of the list. Hi David, If you're just looking at the static document, you're right. But here's

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
I support adding a definition for the term Number Resources to the definitions in section 2 of the NRPM. However, I don't think it should be identified as section 2.17, even though that is the next number for that section. When I look at section 2 as a whole, I believe the term Number Resources

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM - Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread Mike Burns
Hi John, I kind of like Bill's definition, but considering your feedback I offer a modified version. The Internet requires strings of numbers and letters to identify network elements and allow for communication between them. These strings must be unique. The Regional Internet Registries,

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread John Curran
On Mar 22, 2023, at 11:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: Asked and answered. Perhaps you missed it the first two times around? ... https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2023-January/070202.html You propose - Computer network protocols often use unique integers to identify computers and

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 6:11 AM John Curran wrote: > However, if you believe that the proposed definition can be improved, > you should suggest specific wording changes to achieve such (as > comments simply suggesting "a competent rewrite” provide no > meaningful information for the ARIN AC to

[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update

2023-03-22 Thread Zingee
Hi, I'm new to this replying to mailing lists so please correct any decorum or reply mistakes. But how does this affect Legacy IP holders? At first read, this seems to remove the distinction and tries to force through new definitions? So if that is the intent, then I strongly oppose this? And

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread John Curran
On Mar 21, 2023, at 8:33 PM, William Herrin wrote: ... Worse still: RFC 7020 never explicitly defines Internet Numbers or Internet Number Resources, the thing section 2.17 is trying to explain. It defines the "Internet Numbers Registry System.” Bill - You are correct that the term “Internet