“All that said, I couldn’t find any justification for the increase from $1,000
to $10,000. If there is justification or other details regarding the increase,
I’d appreciate a pointer to them.”
Hi David,
Reading the new contract it’s clear that ARIN’s intention here is to avoid any
I see no value in IPv4 brokers. If you don't want to pay those fees,
you're more than welcome to return unused IPv4 space to the ARIN pool. The
entire community would appreciate it.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 7:52 PM Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML <
arin-ppml@arin.net> wrote:
> Fees for IP
Let’s be honest; the original $100 was just a number thrown out because
ARIN knew it had to charge something but didn’t have a good idea what the
real costs would be. The $1,000 number seems very reasonable to me, maybe
even low. At $10,000, I have a small amount of sympathy for an argument
that
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On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:15 AM Bill Woodcock wrote:
> Removing the program, with its criteria and fees, would not stop the
> practice. I will be the first to admit that, when I was on
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 5:15 AM Bill Woodcock wrote:
> I was completely against commercial brokerage of
> IP addresses, as a matter of principle. I believed
> that IP addresses, when no longer needed, should
> be returned to the RIR for redistribution as needed.
The "legal fiction," so to
We have to live in the real world and business is what has driven the Internet
up to this point, and businesses including IP Brokers will help drive it into
the future. No businesses then the internet is just an educational platform. My
2 cents.
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On Jun 1, 2023, at 9:23 PM,
Actually in the phone number space, there are LARGE blocks of numbers that
cannot easily be returned because of legacy issues.
The legacy technology is pagers, which ironically I still use to alert me
to network outages by automatic means. Texting cannot be used to alert to
internet failures,
Removing the program, with its criteria and fees, would not stop the practice.
I will be the first to admit that, when I was on the ARIN board, I was
completely against commercial brokerage of IP addresses, as a matter of
principle. I believed that IP addresses, when no longer needed, should
I don’t see a reason to shut it down as it keeps at least some level of
standard and provides revenue for ARIN.
But then again in completely against brokeraging IP addresses. So I could
go either way.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 17:26 Dominik Dobrowolski <
dominikdobrowolski...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
If we are at it,
Why shouldn't we discuss openly whether to even keep facilitators program
alive?
Dominik Dobrowolski,
dominet LLC
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 PM Tom Fantacone wrote:
> I was a bit stunned this morning to see our organization's ARIN fees
> would be going up by a factor of 10.
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