Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-11 Thread Brandon Ross
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, David Farmer wrote: On 3/10/14, 23:13 , Brandon Ross wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Andrew Dul wrote: Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? An off-list conversation helped me clarify my

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-11 Thread Martin Hannigan
Different issues. Two will always be a PNI. Submit other proposals for other issues please. Best, Martin On Tuesday, March 11, 2014, Andrew Dul andrew@quark.net wrote: For those who are concerned about making sure these types of blocks are available in the future, there are two other

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-11 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Scott Leibrand scottleibr...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason two small rural players shouldn't start with a PA /30 and renumber into a larger block if/when they get a third participant?

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-11 Thread Scott Leibrand
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Scott Leibrand scottleibr...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason two small rural players shouldn't start with a PA

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Andrew Dul
The ARIN AC would appreciate input from the community on this policy. Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? Thanks, Andrew On 3/4/2014 12:13 PM, ARIN wrote: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7 Section 4.4 Micro

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Michael Peddemors
While on the surface this might seem prudent, it may be onerous for smaller players. More information might be needed to determine adverse cases, or possibly some exemption for rural players that might not be able to attain a 3rd participant. On 14-03-10 08:37 AM, Andrew Dul wrote: The ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Bill Darte
Oh, BTWI don't have any problem with increasing from 2 to 3, but am against it for moreand, I may be willing to carve out an exception for Caribbean communities still encumbered by limited competition. There, have a public exchange already in existence may support future competition. I'd

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
No exceptions for Caribbean. Not necessary. And not part of policy so no need to rather already. The addresses are being protected for the future, ncluding tbe Carribean. Feel free to elaborate on more, I'm interested. On Monday, March 10, 2014, Bill Darte billda...@gmail.com wrote: Oh,

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, David Huberman wrote: Michael Peddemors wrote: While on the surface this might seem prudent, it may be onerous for smaller players. More information might be needed to determine adverse cases, or possibly some exemption for rural players that might not be able to attain

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Scott Leibrand wrote: Any reason two small rural players shouldn't start with a PA /30 and renumber into a larger block if/when they get a third participant? Yes, renumbering is hard. Renumbering is even harder for rural entities that don't have tons of high end network

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Andrew Dul wrote: Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? An off-list conversation helped me clarify my concern about raising the requirement. It's not just the burden of renumbering alone

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-10 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Dul andrew@quark.net wrote: The ARIN AC would appreciate input from the community on this policy. Specifically, do you support raising the number of participants required to obtain an IXP micro allocation from 2 to 3? I support raising the number to

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update - Revised

2014-03-04 Thread ARIN
Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7 Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update Revised text for ARIN-2014-7 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_7.html The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's