[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-26 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear ARIN-PPML WG, Hope this email finds you in good health. Please see my comments below, inline... Thanks. Le mercredi 22 mars 2023, John Curran a écrit : > > [...] > > The very first sentence of RFC 7020 reads as follows - > > *This document provides information about the current Internet

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-23 Thread John Santos
They use this scheme in SOME places, but not everywhere. Massachusetts has been changing the highway exit numbers for the last decade or slow to adopt the scheme where the exit numbers are the number of miles from one end of the highway. So you know that if you are at exit 68 and want exit

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-23 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:13, William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM David Farmer wrote: >> When I look at section 2 as a whole, I believe the term Number >> Resources logically belongs near the top of the list and not near the bottom >> of the list. > > Hi David, > > If

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
Yes, there are always trade-offs. Nevertheless, I still think the solution to this problem requires a more holistic view of section 2. Looking at this more, I have the following suggestion; Rewrite the introductory paragraph to section 2 as follows; Networks of all sizes and types require

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM David Farmer wrote: > When I look at section 2 as a whole, I believe the term Number > Resources logically belongs near the top of the list and not near the bottom > of the list. Hi David, If you're just looking at the static document, you're right. But here's

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
I support adding a definition for the term Number Resources to the definitions in section 2 of the NRPM. However, I don't think it should be identified as section 2.17, even though that is the next number for that section. When I look at section 2 as a whole, I believe the term Number Resources

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM - Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread Mike Burns
, including ARIN, manage the registration of such Number Resources to ensure uniqueness. Regards, Mike From: ARIN-PPML On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:34 AM To: BIll Herrin Cc: PPML Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread John Curran
On Mar 22, 2023, at 11:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: Asked and answered. Perhaps you missed it the first two times around? ... https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2023-January/070202.html You propose - Computer network protocols often use unique integers to identify computers and

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 6:11 AM John Curran wrote: > However, if you believe that the proposed definition can be improved, > you should suggest specific wording changes to achieve such (as > comments simply suggesting "a competent rewrite” provide no > meaningful information for the ARIN AC to

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-22 Thread John Curran
On Mar 21, 2023, at 8:33 PM, William Herrin wrote: ... Worse still: RFC 7020 never explicitly defines Internet Numbers or Internet Number Resources, the thing section 2.17 is trying to explain. It defines the "Internet Numbers Registry System.” Bill - You are correct that the term “Internet

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-21 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 4:57 PM Matthew Wilder wrote: > Speaking for myself here, not on behalf of ARIN AC, nor even NRPM WG, but as > myself only. > > The shepherds alerted me of your concern, so I hope to provide > you at least with the assurance that your feedback was indeed > noted.

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-21 Thread Matthew Wilder via ARIN-PPML
Hi Bill, Speaking for myself here, not on behalf of ARIN AC, nor even NRPM WG, but as myself only. I am in favour of the policy as written. I had originally written the proposal for this draft policy which came from the NRPM Working Group to introduce a definition for Internet Number Resources

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-21 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:37 AM ARIN wrote: > * ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17 > Based on community feedback and AC discussion we motion to move ARIN-2022-11: > Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17 to Recommended Draft, with > the following

[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17

2023-03-21 Thread ARIN
On 16 March 2023, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following Draft Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status:   * ARIN-2022-11: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17 The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be found at: