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2017-12-21 Thread narten
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Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Mike Burns
Hi John, Thanks and Happy Holidays. I submitted a proposal so we can continue the discussion. Regards, Mike From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 1:38 PM To: Mike Burns Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread John Curran
On 21 Dec 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mike Burns mailto:m...@iptrading.com>> wrote: Hi John APNIC and RIPE are doing it today. Surely the agreement you reference between RIRs about tracking has been achieved between those two registries. Can you provide any guidance on the timeline of the implementation

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Owen DeLong
It potentially creates some RPKI and whois software questions IIRC. No DNSSEC implications that I can think of. Owen > On Dec 21, 2017, at 04:13 , hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote: > > Are there any technical issues related to DNSSEC or otherwise that bind ASN > ranges to specific RIR's. If so, w

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Mike Burns
Hi John APNIC and RIPE are doing it today. Surely the agreement you reference between RIRs about tracking has been achieved between those two registries. Can you provide any guidance on the timeline of the implementation period? Or the costs involved, so we can see if it's worth the effort? Reg

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread John Curran
On 21 Dec 2017, at 7:13 AM, hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote: > > Are there any technical issues related to DNSSEC or otherwise that bind ASN > ranges to specific RIR's. If so, we need to talk about required measures to > deal with this issue. Albert - There’s not a DNCSEC issue, but it doe

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Mike Burns
Hi Chris, Sorry I didn’t address the regional imbalance issue. It does seem to me that the demand for ASN transfers is larger in other regions than in ARIN, and there is no reason to believe that ARIN couldn’t be the source for ASN transfers since the same reasons cause ARIN to be a primary

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 02:20:13PM -0500, Mike Burns wrote: > I am debating a proposal to allow inter-regional ASN transfers. A degree of 'feature' parity between IP blocks and ASNs in terms of transferability makes perfect sense to me. Kind regards, Job _

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Mike Burns
Hi Chris, We find demand for short ASNs, particularly in the APNIC region. The top part of the APNIC transfer list shows a lot of ASN transfers. https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/transfer-logs/ They cost roughly $1K. Regards, Mike Burns From: Chris

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread Chris Woodfield
I personally don’t have much visibility into the resale market for short ASNs, so I’m curious - is there currently a relative supply/demand imbalance that could be alleviated by opening up the ARIN supply to other regions? Or is this meant to address future anticipated imbalances? -C > On Dec

Re: [arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

2017-12-21 Thread hostmaster
Are there any technical issues related to DNSSEC or otherwise that bind ASN ranges to specific RIR's. If so, we need to talk about required measures to deal with this issue. Other than this, I see no other showstopper to portable ASN's, and would support. Albert Erdmann Network Administrato