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2019-06-06 Thread narten
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Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 5:21 PM John Curran wrote: > To that end, at this time it would be good to know from everyone: > > 1. Are you in favor of ARIN making the policy change specified in the > revised "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet > Requests” ? Support as

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Fernando Frediani
What an absurd idea ! That's not ideal propose and although ARIN can and should not ignor transfer market and it is the RIR function to handle the waiting list and have it in its full control. It is one of its main proposes to handle this waiting list and I personaly support this fully. Regards

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Robert Clarke
I agree with William. It's definitely not logical to hand out free addresses. Robert Clarke > On Jun 6, 2019, at 6:21 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > Support, though frankly I'd prefer it if ARIN simply abolished the wait list > and put the addresses on the transfer market. > >

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread William Herrin
Support, though frankly I'd prefer it if ARIN simply abolished the wait list and put the addresses on the transfer market. Philosophically speaking, how could you possibly *need* addresses the way we think of need if you can afford to wait months and months for them to become available on the

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Brian Jones
I support this policy revision as written and feel it should move forward while further discussion takes place for hashing out more details. — Brian Jones, CSP, CSM, CSPO NIS Virginia Tech bjo...@vt.edu On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 5:13 PM Nick Bogle wrote: > I support these changes as written. > >

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Nick Bogle
I support these changes as written. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:21 AM John Curran wrote: > Folks - > > We’ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised > “Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests" > proposed policy change – some of which is likely to

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Steve Feldman
I also support this policy change as written and encourage future policy proposals to refine the details. Steve On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:26 AM Leif Sawyer wrote: > +1 support the policy change as currently written > > > > > > Also, as a general reminder, we don’t have to get this

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Andrew Dul
I support the AC's recommendation as written. While this policy will limit the organizations that are eligible to receive a block, I believe it strikes the right balance.  The smaller block size (/22) is generally in line with the final block size allocations of the other RIRs. Furthermore,

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Joe Provo
On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 05:20:40PM +, John Curran wrote: > Folks - > > We???ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised > ???Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet > Requests" proposed policy change ??? some of which is likely to > have to further

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread John Santos
Support. On 6/6/2019 1:20 PM, John Curran wrote: Folks - We’ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised “Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests"  proposed policy change – some of which is likely to have to further informed folks initial views

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Steven Ryerse via ARIN-PPML
I would add that the current wait list is the best view we have of what the marketplace needs, so if a minimum is to be established it should take into account the actual requests for resources that are in the queue. Also 2 year hold is the compromise. My two cents. Steven Ryerse President

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Pruitt
That would be correct. What to do with the people already on the current list need to be addressed clearly. Thanks, Tom Pruitt Network Engineer Stratus Networks From: John Curran Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 2:34 PM To: Tom Pruitt Cc: ARIN-PPML List Subject: Re: Looking for final show of

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread John Curran
Tom - To be clear, if the only choices are status quo (no wait list issuance for foreseeable future) or resume under the AC proposed change, you are recommending status quo - correct? /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On 6 Jun 2019, at 3:01 PM, Tom

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Steven Ryerse via ARIN-PPML
+1 for toms comments Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Tom Pruitt mailto:tpru...@stratusnet.com>> wrote: No -- I can not support the new policy if applied to the current waiting list. -- I don’t support applying the new restriction (only Orgs holding a /20 or less can get on

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Pruitt
No -- I can not support the new policy if applied to the current waiting list. -- I don’t support applying the new restriction (only Orgs holding a /20 or less can get on the waiting list) to Orgs that were on the list prior to the suspension. --I also would rather see those same Orgs get

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Paul Andersen
Michael, Given the timing of the next ARIN Advisory Council and Board Meeting(s) and the next scheduled allocation of resources by staff — it is the only option if the community does not want to delay resumption of the waiting list. If the community feels that we need to go back to the drawing

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Brian Reid
> 1. Are you in favor of ARIN making the policy change specified in the > revised "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet > Requests" ? Yes.___ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Michael Williams via ARIN-PPML
If the only choice is to not issue or issue /22, I suppose resuming. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jun 2019, at 13:30, John Curran wrote: Michael - To be clear, if the only choices are status quo (no wait list issuance for foreseeable future) or resume under the AC proposed change, you are

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Fantacone
No - oppose.  But I would support it if the 60 month waiting period was reduced to 12 or 24 months.  60 months means companies who no longer need the resources will just sit on them till they can sell them.  Not an efficient way to get them into the hands of those who need them. And also that

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Matthew Wilder
+1, I also support ARIN adopting the changes recommended by the AC. Having followed discussion on the mailing list and in person (at ARIN 43) I was able to see first-hand the good faith discussions and rationale which led to the CIDR size limitation and timing for wait list issuance. Better to

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/6/19 10:20 AM, John Curran wrote: 1.  Are you in favor of ARIN making the policy change specified in the revised  "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests”  ? Yes, I support this policy. ~Seth ___ ARIN-PPML You

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Michael Casadevall
+1 support from here as well On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 17:29 Scott Leibrand wrote: > +1 support for the draft policy as written, and to Leif's other points. > > -Scott > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:26 AM Leif Sawyer wrote: > >> +1 support the policy change as currently written >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread John Curran
Michael - To be clear, if the only choices are status quo (no wait list issuance for foreseeable future) or resume under the AC proposed change, you are recommending status quo - correct? /John p.s. The reason we ask in this particular manner is because we can’t accurately gauge support or

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Owen DeLong
Yes. I favor the AC’s revised recommendation. The changes address certain staff concerns we hadn’t previously considered while maintaining a structure which I believe is widely supported within the community. Even if this isn’t the perfect solution, I believe it is a good way forward and

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Leif Sawyer
+1 support the policy change as currently written Also, as a general reminder, we don't have to get this *perfect* out of the gates, and we -the community- can suggest follow-up policy changes if things start looking strange. But if we wait to try to find a perfect balance between all

Re: [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread Michael Williams via ARIN-PPML
No. I do not support the policy as written. I believe the request size should be increased to a /21. Furthermore either in this policy or a seperate one should require any IP issuances coming from the waitlist to be returned to ARIN if they are no longer used. We should not allow IPs acquired

[arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

2019-06-06 Thread John Curran
Folks - We’ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised “Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests" proposed policy change – some of which is likely to have to further informed folks initial views on the matter (as well as on future policy