Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 03/20/2012 08:00 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 03/20/2012 02:48 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: Are alignment problems not considered bugs? It's not just that this will break code on ARM v7 and IIRC SPARC, but alignment issues also cause cache line straddling which has a performance impact. I

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread Leif Lindholm
On 03/20/12 20:00, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 03/20/2012 02:48 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: Are alignment problems not considered bugs? It's not just that this will break code on ARM v7 and IIRC SPARC, but alignment issues also cause cache line straddling which has a performance impact. I took

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread Gordan Bobic
Chris Tyler wrote: Otherwise not paying attention to alignment in something like e2fsprogs could plausibly trash the file system: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680090 Even if sloppy programming is not an issue on later ARMs, IMO the alignment issues should be treated as bugs

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:28 +, Gordan Bobic wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: We do, after a fashion (and then wrap it in some extra layers): it's called a Live Disc :-) Indeed, but that's not an installation. Install to Disk on a live disc dd's the premade ext3/4 filesystem image to the hard

[fedora-arm] Wishful Thinking, Arm media install?

2012-03-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Will it (is it) ever be possible at some stage to install Fedora(Arm) using maybe some of the traditional methods of x86* Maybe Live-USB or even SD?, ios iso? -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars ___ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [fedora-arm] Wishful Thinking, Arm media install?

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Will it (is it) ever be possible at some stage to install Fedora(Arm) using maybe some of the traditional methods of x86* Maybe Live-USB or even SD?, ios iso? Yes it will, it's not possible at the moment. It's being

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 03/21/2012 05:22 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673691 Agreed, alignment fixups must be enabled early. Ah, I thought this was already resolved. So, er, we just need to followup on this BZ until it's resolved in rawhide? I see it's already in

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Primary FESCO discussion results, round 1

2012-03-21 Thread DJ Delorie
Yes, using one kernel source rpm is working fine for us. It's the long build time which needs to be overcome. distcc helps. distcc helps, I've done it, but until x86 uses distcc in koji, ARM can't use it either. ___ arm mailing list

[fedora-arm] (late notice) Fedora-ARM weekly call on in 15 minutes

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
Hi folks, Let's get together on the phone and/or online and have a chat. There's been a lot of activity in the last couple weeks and it'd be good to discuss next steps, strategy, etc. Conference code: 617-759-1337 (no passcode required) Toll Free Dial-In Number (US Canada): (800) 451-8679

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Koji Downtime - Proposed: 2012-03-21 1300-2100 UTC

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote: We need to do some testing on the buildsystem to iron out a few NFS issues and do some physical work. I propose taking the farm offline on Wednesday from 1300-2100 UTC (0800-1700 EDT), any objections? What is the status of

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM Koji Downtime - Proposed: 2012-03-21 1300-2100 UTC

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 21:15 +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote: We need to do some testing on the buildsystem to iron out a few NFS issues and do some physical work. I propose taking the farm offline on Wednesday from 1300-2100

[fedora-arm] Soliciting feedback on Fedora ARM primary arch proposal

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
Hi everybody. This Monday FESCo did an initial review of the ARM team's ARM PA Feature proposal. As part of that review, they requested we get in touch with affected groups including releng. While Dennis Gilmore has some specific plans in mind and was even involved in creating the feature

[fedora-arm] F17 ARM Build Error Stats

2012-03-21 Thread Jonathan Chiappetta
$ reset ; ./diff/kojicmp.sh f p | tee /tmp/arm.koji.stats.txt Arch| Deps| Reqs|Config| Build| Make| Unknown 0|46|11|24| 3|60| 4

Re: [fedora-arm] F17 ARM Build Error Stats

2012-03-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 03/21/2012 05:43 PM, Jonathan Chiappetta wrote: Number of unbuilt/cancelled/building pkgs = 469 Can you describe this one a little better? Is that unique packages or if there are two versions of a single package built does it add 2 to the number? Is it just a count of the latest in