Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-12 Thread dumblob
Hi Kyle, > Looking at the laptops, they're all refurbished Thinkpads with Intel inside. > I would perform a libre installation on such hardware if someone already > owned it, but I would certainly never consider selling it as anything close > to libre hardware. It has been said that the software

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:16 PM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > Sounds like the divisions sadly are deeper than I thought. it's not "divisions", it's very simple: the EOMA68 Certification Mark requires that people Certify the products that they intend to

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Kyle
According to dumblob: # I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was # surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Looking at the laptops, they're all refurbished Thinkpads with Intel inside. I would perform a libre installation on such hardware if someone

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
btw what i suspect is that tch is expecting to blithely copy the entire EOMA68-A20 hardware, with the expectation of spongeing off of the time and effort put into it. just like he did by spongeing off of chris's work with the AR9271 chain of devices. what he doesn't realise is that it's

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:32 PM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote: > Anyway, we two seem to agree that talking to Tehnoetic is worth a try > when EOMA68-A20 is ready. mmm no. i'm not going to initiate any conversations: i know enough to know that doing so would

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:36 PM, zap wrote: > Well, I hope your right, he has been acting odd if you use trisquel > forums... you will see what I mean... i know what to expect - i've seen it happen before. people get it into their heads that i'm a threat (or in this case

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 06:57:32AM -0400, zap wrote: > On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was > > surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is > > also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 07:29 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, zap wrote: > > >> Alas, the owner of that company says that eoma68-a20 is not libre >> hardware... > this does not surprise me. if he has been talking to the guy known > as

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 06:57 AM, zap wrote: > > On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was >> surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is >> also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. >> >> Luke, it

Re: [Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread zap
On 07/06/2017 06:04 AM, dumblob wrote: > Hi, > > I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was > surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is > also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. > > Luke, it might be worth contacting them with EOMA

[Arm-netbook] Technoethical - a good-looking seller of HW with Libre SW & firmware (Technoethical holds RYF certification)

2017-07-06 Thread dumblob
Hi, I just came across Technoethical (https://tehnoetic.com/ ) and was surprised by the range of libre products they sell. Technoethical is also RYF (https://ryf.fsf.org/ ) certified. Luke, it might be worth contacting them with EOMA notebooks. Cheers, -- Jan