Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-02-09 Thread Pablo Rath
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:55:33PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Lidén Borell > wrote: > > > Is there a reason why the crowdsupply project front page still says 2 > > GB? I think it would reduce the risk of misunderstandings if the RAM > > s

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Wilbur
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2018, at 20:35, Richard Wilbur wrote: > Are there enough 2.7.4 cards and microdesktop housings that I could buy one > of each to use for test development and software integration/porting? So I'd be interested in: Libre Tea Card (v2.7.4), $65 on CrowdSupply (proto

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Jan 28, 2018, at 12:22, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > folks, gotta do another update, i'm leaving for brussels in 16 hours > time. i have about *six* different things / meetings to do from the > 2nd-4th, i'm then going to the UK from the 7th to the 20th and back > again to Taiwan.

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote: > I suspect this means "someone following the list". Sorry, but that > won't be me. I'll contribute, I've got way too much online promotion > that I should b

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Tor, the Marqueteur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2018 06:49 AM, zap wrote: > lkcl wrote: >> Tor wrote: >>> Should a crowdfunding, all or nothing, be considered to gauge >>> how much people care about the difference in RAM? >> it could... if someone else is prepared to take responsibility >>

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread zap
On 01/28/2018 02:28 PM, Adam Van Ymeren wrote: > On January 28, 2018 2:22:03 PM EST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> folks, gotta do another update, i'm leaving for brussels in 16 hours >> time. i have about *six* different things / meetings to do from the >> 2nd-4th, i'm then going t

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
On January 28, 2018 2:22:03 PM EST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >folks, gotta do another update, i'm leaving for brussels in 16 hours >time. i have about *six* different things / meetings to do from the >2nd-4th, i'm then going to the UK from the 7th to the 20th and back >again to Taiwan

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
folks, gotta do another update, i'm leaving for brussels in 16 hours time. i have about *six* different things / meetings to do from the 2nd-4th, i'm then going to the UK from the 7th to the 20th and back again to Taiwan. i'm hand-couriering the remaining 2.7.4 Cards and the Microdesktop Housings

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread zap
>> Should a crowdfunding, all or nothing, be considered to gauge how much >> people care about the difference in RAM? > it could... if someone else is prepared to take responsibility for it. > i'll be absolutely honest: i'm getting tired of handling this stuff on > my own. Yes, understandable. Wou

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread zap
>> Hm, you may have a point. Its not like you have a forum anyways after >> all right? > a phpbb style forum would be an unmitigated disaster for this > project, as it would be an indicative sign to average end-users that > "everything is perfectly ready, everything will work 100% the moment > yo

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
On January 28, 2018 10:36:45 AM EST, Alexander Ross wrote: >While 2gb ram would be great, I am wiling to accept compromise. With >hope/thinking that i guess finishing first card, means next-gen cpu >card >could get more focus after the first one is out :D (pending sponsoring >i >assume). Look for

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Alexander Ross
While 2gb ram would be great, I am wiling to accept compromise. With hope/thinking that i guess finishing first card, means next-gen cpu card could get more focus after the first one is out :D (pending sponsoring i assume). Look forward to lots of ram for that one instead heh :) _

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Lidén Borell wrote: > Is there a reason why the crowdsupply project front page still says 2 > GB? I think it would reduce the risk of misunderstandings if the RAM > size reduction was mentioned clearly on that page :) because we don't know yet - for abso

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/27/2018 10:40 PM, zap wrote: >> lkcl wrote: >>> ... which wouldn't cost that much. my main concern

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 8:40 AM, zap wrote: > Hmm... I have read most of them. Although I may have skimmed through a > few. > Mostly because they had to do with hdmi which is not my main interest. you're one of the small percentage that does. > Hm, you may have a point. Its not like you have

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Samuel Lidén Borell
On 2018-01-28 03:40, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ... which wouldn't cost that much. my main concern would actually > be: we have quite a lot of empirical evidence to suggest that most > people don't f*g well read the f*g updates. witness the last > set of complaints - RIGHT HER

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread Tor, the Marqueteur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/2018 10:40 PM, zap wrote: > lkcl wrote: >> ... which wouldn't cost that much. my main concern would >> actually be: we have quite a lot of empirical evidence to suggest >> that most people don't f*g well read the f*g updates. >> witne

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-28 Thread zap
> ... which wouldn't cost that much. my main concern would actually > be: we have quite a lot of empirical evidence to suggest that most > people don't f*g well read the f*g updates. witness the last > set of complaints - RIGHT HERE - where people said, "but but you > didn't say anythin

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:12 AM, zap wrote: > i really don't know. RAM prices are so mad that suppliers are actually reluctant to find out, because (a) they actually CAN'T get hold of them - as in there

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread zap
>>> i really don't know. RAM prices are so mad that suppliers are >>> actually reluctant to find out, because (a) they actually CAN'T get >>> hold of them - as in there AREN'T ANY AVAIALBLE or (b) those that are >>> available are in such demand that they don't want to commit unless >>> you're a

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:59 AM, zap wrote: >> basically until you get to QTY 500 or above the setup and teardown >> costs are so high that companies are reluctant to do anything below >> 1,000 units. i'm lucky that

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread zap
On 01/27/2018 05:28 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:11 PM, zap wrote: > >> Okay, but when I meant paying a little more, I meant what you would need >> to do it for one person.

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Christopher Havel
Replying by phone, usual constraints. Sorry. Your reply makes a lot of sense. I understand better now. That's quite an operation... On Jan 27, 2018 6:15 PM, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Christopher Havel > wrote: > > >> the problem is they need to b

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Christopher Havel wrote: >> the problem is they need to be re-balled. > > > Forgive both naïveté and apparent stupidity (or at least inexperience) -- > but why? A conductor conducts, be it a copper trace, an aluminum wire, or a > lump of solder in between the two

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Christopher Havel
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > the problem is they need to be re-balled. Forgive both naïveté and apparent stupidity (or at least inexperience) -- but why? A conductor conducts, be it a copper trace, an aluminum wire, or a lump of solder in between the

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Havel wrote: > Oy, Luke, pardon a bit of an oddball idea -- my specialty, everyone elses' > headache, typically -- but if you're desperate enough -- how much would it > cost

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Christopher Havel
Oy, Luke, pardon a bit of an oddball idea -- my specialty, everyone elses' headache, typically -- but if you're desperate enough -- how much would it cost to buy a fat stack of DIMMs with the right chips and hire some bored dude with a hot air machine or reballing station and the skill to use it, t

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:11 PM, zap wrote: > Okay, but when I meant paying a little more, I meant what you would need > to do it for one person. oh. ok. well, um... a _lot_. as in, it would be a custom board, done

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Tor, the Marqueteur
On 01/27/2018 11:11 AM, zap wrote: >> a way to *increase* the budget is therefore the most sensible option >> to explore and consider. translation: someone needs to find more >> money. > Okay, but when I meant paying a little more, I meant what you would need > to do it for one person. Aka on an

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread zap
> ok, so anything that goes beyond the available budget is just not > possible. a mixture of RAM ICs would require an evaluation and a > quote on exactly how much it would cost to split - and massively > complicate - both the *ordering* of the RAM ICs *and* the production > of the PCBs. > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:35 PM, zap wrote: > I heard you considering only sending 1gb of ram instead of 2gb of ram. > I just wanted to ask, if it comes down to it, if you would be willing to > still send 2gb of ram and

[Arm-netbook] updates from eoma68-a20

2018-01-27 Thread zap
I heard you considering only sending 1gb of ram instead of 2gb of ram.  I just wanted to ask, if it comes down to it, if you would be willing to still send 2gb of ram and have uboot preloaded even if it costs a little extra... for those of us who really need the 2gb of ram. 4gb would be nice too of