Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Allan Mwenda
Quick give this man $150K for a libre CPU On 8 May 2017 18:43:07 GMT+03:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, wrote: >> Best knowledge is, that new intel and amd processors cannot be >reverse engineered. >> What in

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Bill Kontos wrote: > I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will get > mainlined any time soon. The question is, how much does the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Kontos
Verhaegen is one of those selected individuals who had the luxury of getting all the shit of the world thrown at their face for trying to do the right thing. He was one of the leaders in pushing amd into mainlining gpu drivers( which they have been successful to and keep working on) and got shit

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Kontos
Yes, here they are https://developer.arm.com/products/software/mali-drivers/midgard-kernel On May 8, 2017 12:02 PM, "Bill Kontos" wrote: > I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will > get mainlined any time soon. The question is, how much does

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Kontos
So do these drivers provide registers etc ? How much extra effort is required to get 2d accel with a clean room userland driver ? If we can do that and also get rasterisers working we can have a fully functional gnu/linux desktop futureproofed with wayland support. Also could we reuse that

Re: [Arm-netbook] eoma68 router (qca9531)

2017-05-08 Thread Allan Mwenda
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread Pablo
> > The R8 is a rebranded A13. > What? I own one of those and I'm almost certain that the CPU is an A7. > Let's boot the PocketCHIP up... > The processor is detected as an A7. > I'll attach the output, it would probably be interesting to see all of > it... > Done, it's compressed bzip2 since it's

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Kontos
I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will get mainlined any time soon. The question is, how much does the userland blob do and how much work needs to be done to get libre 2d accel. On May 8, 2017 7:47 AM, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" wrote: > --- >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:23 PM, wrote: > Is it common to do something like this against a person? in the unethical business world? of course it is! mostly you don't get to hear about it, but software libre developers are different. they're not beholden to anyone,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
Don't top post please 2017-05-08 17:23 GMT+02:00 : > Original Message > From: Bill Kontos > > > Verhaegen is one of those selected individuals who had the luxury of > getting all the shit of the world thrown at their face for

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:27 PM, wrote: > Best knowledge is, that new intel and amd processors cannot be reverse > engineered. > What in regard of the latest mali gpus? > If you have the money, they can be reverse engineered? yes. about $150k would do it. but the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread ronwirring
Is it common to do something like this against a person? Original Message From: Bill Kontos Apparently from: arm-netbook-boun...@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Linux on small ARM machines Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic:

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:54 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > I guess the company's building those GPU are too scared that if they open > their drives their competitors see the copyright and/or patent infringement > their design has. eexactly. the "big boys" - nvidia,

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-05-08 11:02 GMT+02:00 Bill Kontos : > I think arm has open source kernel drivers but there is no way they will > get mainlined any time soon. The question is, how much does the userland > blob do and how much work needs to be done to get libre 2d accel. > A display

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Kontos
Imagination is far from dead yet. They did a mistake when they based all of their gpu income on apple, but their ip is rather advanced. Also on the plus side there has been discussion about them open sourcing their drivers a few months back and afterwards they hired new developers. I wouldn't be

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-08 Thread Lauri Kasanen
On Mon, 8 May 2017 17:39:17 +0300 Bill Kontos wrote: > Imagination is far from dead yet. They did a mistake when they based all of > their gpu income on apple, but their ip is rather advanced. Also on the > plus side there has been discussion about them open sourcing their

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread Pablo
On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 04:36:40PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Pablo wrote: > > > To flash your deblobbed image beware of the closed-source flashing tool for > > the Chrome browser and use the strange “Ubuntu virtual machine

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-08 Thread Pablo
On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 10:36:28AM +0200, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > Their website is hardly obvious to the software needs of running their > hardware. > > How hard can it be > > "To use our hardware you have two options: Our BSP which has closed source > drivers, but you have full