Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Hands
John Luke Gibson writes: > On 5/9/17, Benson Mitchell wrote: >> Seems like you're confusing back-quote (`) with single-quote ('), maybe? >> > I just want to say that alone makes for pretty terrible design within > a fundamental

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 card based on NXP i.MX7 (work in progress)

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:02 AM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > Looks like a good objective. The i.MX display pipeline is reasonably reverse > engineered to have a full open open source experience. > > Reading this list I guess you'll need a few things before you start: > 1.

Re: [Arm-netbook] eoma68 router (qca9531)

2017-05-10 Thread Erik Auerswald
Hi, On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 03:04:37PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > so i would assume, because it's not an actual 10/100 ethernet, that it > > would run at (saturate) the full 480mb/sec of USB2. so not quite GbE > > speeds but pretty damn close. yay! > > Based on what USB2 gives us with

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Allan Mwenda
Free Software Foundation Latin America Linux-Libre. On 10 May 2017 09:40:02 GMT+03:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >--- >crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > >On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, John Luke Gibson

Re: [Arm-netbook] GR8 based EOMA68 card

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 08:05 PM, Ismo Väänänen wrote: > Hello, > > The recent talk about de-blobbing R8 and thus also GR8 inspired me to > do a quick write up on how I see a Next Thing Co. GR8 > System-In-Package chip being used in an EOMA68 compatible card. > The latest version of the write up can be

[Arm-netbook] GR8 based EOMA68 card

2017-05-10 Thread Ismo Väänänen
Hello, The recent talk about de-blobbing R8 and thus also GR8 inspired me to do a quick write up on how I see a Next Thing Co. GR8 System-In-Package chip being used in an EOMA68 compatible card. The latest version of the write up can be found here:

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 06:48 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:29 PM, zap wrote: > >> I am curious though, how far have you gotten Luke with the a20 version, etc, > no change: waiting is waiting. send board off, wait for 2-4 weeks > for it to

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 07:38:22PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > awww! i quite _like_ the horrendous straying off-topic-ness :) > would you settle for asking people to start a new thread? Or at least change the subject line when the subject changes? -- hendrik

Re: [Arm-netbook] GR8 based EOMA68 card

2017-05-10 Thread Allan Mwenda
Do it! The more cards the merrier. On 11 May 2017 03:05:24 GMT+03:00, "Ismo Väänänen" wrote: >Hello, > >The recent talk about de-blobbing R8 and thus also GR8 inspired me to >do a >quick write up on how I see a Next Thing Co. GR8 System-In-Package chip >being used in an

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 05:46:23PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I'm an atheist whose basic emotional attitude is anger against God for > > not existing. > > hendrik, i have to be honest: don't

Re: [Arm-netbook] GR8 based EOMA68 card

2017-05-10 Thread Louis Pearson
I had this same idea just today, though I doubt I would have gotten even this far. Go for it! I believe I originally brought it up, in the context of an EOMA50 card, but an EOMA68 card would probably be more immediately useful. ___ arm-netbook mailing

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Louis Pearson
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > the next logical step in the chain was to analyse this emergent > evolutionary process "in general", and to conclude that the > intelligence is *NOT* a "birthright of humanity" as humans like to > arrogantly

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:23 PM, zap wrote: > it is sad because they think they will be rewarded at the end. But they > already have their temporary very short term reward. Though they deserve > it, I feel a mixture of pity and anger towards them. steady, zap: i

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:24 PM, zap wrote: > I am curious, should we refocus on some of the pressing issues? > > such as the rk3288 and the rk3399? hehehe. :) if i didn't have time i would leave these discussions alone... except if i thought they were important. i'm

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:29 PM, zap wrote: > I am curious though, how far have you gotten Luke with the a20 version, etc, no change: waiting is waiting. send board off, wait for 2-4 weeks for it to be done. nothing i can do in the meantime, absolutely nothing i can

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Bill Kontos
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > now that i think about it, i believe i heard of something about 20 > years ago called the humanist society (or something like that). > apparently they live their lives according to a really quite [humane]

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Pablo
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 05:06:17PM -0700, Jeffrey Sites wrote: > > > > On May 9, 2017, at 16:00, John Luke Gibson wrote: > > > > Right now I'm looking at CHIP-buildroot. > > I'm planning on patching out any blobs and also anything not CHIP > > related (as we don't want a

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Pablo wrote: > With any non-Chip-kernel you will lose NAND support. > So you can either: > a)patch your libre kernel > or > b) ignore NAND and use flash memory via usb port. > > For b) you will need mainline U-Boot because NextThings U-Boot

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Pablo
> >>On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, John Luke Gibson > >>eaterjo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Right now I'm looking at CHIP-buildroot. > >> I'm planning on patching out any blobs and also anything not CHIP > >> related (as we don't want a person to accidentally think the script > >> will give them

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-05-10 16:38 GMT+02:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Pablo wrote: > > > With any non-Chip-kernel you will lose NAND support. > > So you can either: > > a)patch your libre kernel > > or > > b) ignore NAND and use flash

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I'm an atheist whose basic emotional attitude is anger against God for > not existing. hendrik, i have to be honest: don't take it the wrong way ok, but i found this very very funny. windmills?? cheage!! :)

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/09/2017 10:56 PM, Lyberta wrote: > zap: >> I don't know if your religious or not, > I'm agnostic and I have extreme anti-religion views: > https://lyberta.net/articles/social/anti_religion.html Hmm that is rare, at least for me to hear, So you don't know if he exists, but you hate the

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, > well, one of the things we don't unfortunately enforce properly is > good subject-line management, which would allow people to select the > topics that they're interested in. so, i'm going to try to start > doing that and would appreciate people doing the same. Could you also add

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > >> well, one of the things we don't unfortunately enforce properly is >> good subject-line management, which would allow people

Re: [Arm-netbook] Laptop Power Input?

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Alexander Ross wrote: > Not sure what the power input for laptop is? 5V-17V although i may have to change that as i may need to put in a 5V power

Re: [Arm-netbook] Side-Topic: Liberating PocketCHIP

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:00 AM, John Luke Gibson wrote: > Right now I'm looking at CHIP-buildroot. > I'm planning on patching out any blobs and also anything not CHIP > related (as we don't want

[Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Kyle wrote: > Damn. You know a list has been taken over by posting nazis when entire > threads get hijacked just to tell anyone who cares to listen that someone > top posted, and that breaks someone's flow. nooo: it means that we have new people

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Tor, the Marqueteur
On 09/05/17 20:55, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > nooo: it means that we have new people whom we need to accommodate > and teach them how to not disrupt communication with over 400 other > people. as we get new people, that discussion naturally needs to take > place regularly. Is there

Re: [Arm-netbook] I saw your recent update, Luke

2017-05-10 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-05-10 4:34 GMT+02:00 Kyle : > Damn. You know a list has been taken over by posting nazis when entire > threads get hijacked just to tell anyone who cares to listen that someone > top posted, and that breaks someone's flow. > I'm not seeing any of that. The inline posting is

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-10 Thread Allan Mwenda
Hi Luke On the topic of GPU's have you seen this? https://github.com/etnaviv/etna_viv Seems to be a libre driver for Vivante GPU's On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, wrote: > > > How

Re: [Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Allan Mwenda wrote: > Hi Luke > On the topic of GPU's have you seen this? > https://github.com/etnaviv/etna_viv yeahyeah i have. > Seems to be a libre driver for Vivante GPU's it is. the problem with vivante is that their *own*

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 card based on NXP i.MX7 (work in progress)

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Vincent wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Since this is my first post on this list, please allow me to get off my > chest a few things: > > - huge thanks to Luke for getting this project started > - me = funding a PFY laptop, eagerly awaiting for it to

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 card based on NXP i.MX7 (work in progress)

2017-05-10 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-05-09 22:53 GMT+02:00 Vincent : > Hi everybody, > > Since this is my first post on this list, please allow me to get off my > chest a few things: > > - huge thanks to Luke for getting this project started > - me = funding a PFY laptop, eagerly awaiting for it to arrive ;-)

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 card based on NXP i.MX7 (work in progress)

2017-05-10 Thread Allan Mwenda
Hardware designs and documentation are crucial for the lliberation of hardware. You wont be regarded well by the community if you hide these. Even if you a proprietary software to design (loss of YOUR personal freedoms) save all results in a format usable in a libre client (OUR freedom is at

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 03:13 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:02 PM, zap wrote: > >> To be honest, even atheists have a better chance of getting into heaven than >> those false teachers. > *cackle* :) > I thought someone would enjoy that sad

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 03:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Vincent Legoll > wrote: Could you also add something about staying on-topic, thanks.

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 05:24 PM, zap wrote: > > On 05/10/2017 03:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> --- >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 >> >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Vincent Legoll >> wrote: > Could you also

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Vincent Legoll
>> Could you also add something about staying on-topic, thanks. > > awww! i quite _like_ the horrendous straying off-topic-ness :) OK, your call... > would you settle for asking people to start a new thread? Nope, I prefer when people follow the rules by themselves, I'm not doing ML-police.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: > Exactly this. I always prefer to do something by choice. Being manipulated > is the one thing that I hate the most in life. But this takes time, and I > have come to a very similar conclusion to this society you are

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread zap
On 05/10/2017 02:23 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > > wrote: > > > > now that i think about it, i believe i heard of something about 20 > years ago called the humanist society (or something

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:02 PM, zap wrote: > To be honest, even atheists have a better chance of getting into heaven than > those false teachers. *cackle* :) > Life is a challenge but hypocrisy is unneeded. it always makes me wonder, what do people get out of being

Re: [Arm-netbook] list posting etiquette

2017-05-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: >>> Could you also add something about staying on-topic, thanks. >> >> awww! i quite _like_ the horrendous straying off-topic-ness :) >