Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > i'm not letting you off the hook here after you said that EOMA68's > interfaces are "crippled", peter. ok, so can you see what i did, peter? you laid down a challenge (to do better)... and after three days,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-07 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:07 AM, ryan wrote: > I'd like to point out that Ars Technica, Gizmodo and Tech Republic also > reported on Intel's Compute Card with no mention of other similar > projects... > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-07 Thread ryan
I'd like to point out that Ars Technica, Gizmodo and Tech Republic also reported on Intel's Compute Card with no mention of other similar projects... http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/01/intels-compute-card-is-a-pc-that-can-fit-in-your-wallet/

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-07 Thread raphael . melotte
>You can report errors here: > >http://www.bbc.com/news/contact-us/editorial Good idea ! Done for me too. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-07 Thread Alain Williams
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 10:12:05AM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > http://www.bbc.com/news/contact-us/editorial Done. I won't CC what I wrote - far better if everyone writes something different. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-07 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
just got this from a friend: - I sent a 'correction' to the BBC about it. Probably wouldn't hurt if other people pointed out that Intel is not the first to market with modular computing and that a crowd funded 'open source' project beat them to it. EOMA68 already exists and the very first

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote: >> that's Trademark infringment, which is completely different. >> CERTIFICATION mark infringment is based on STANDARDS. a

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 5:40 AM, Allan Mwenda wrote: > Pretty hilarious how much of a direct clone that Intel card is. Imitation is > the sincerest flattery I guess? in a word... yeah :)

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Allan Mwenda
Pretty hilarious how much of a direct clone that Intel card is. Imitation is the sincerest flattery I guess? On January 6, 2017 12:07:04 PM GMT+03:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Alain Williams >wrote: > >> Flag up

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
> that's Trademark infringment, which is completely different. > CERTIFICATION mark infringment is based on STANDARDS. a Trademark is > based on a PRODUCT or a brand.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of certification marks is that, while they're related to the standards published

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote: >> if you check 30 seconds in the connector is completely different (otherwise >> intel would have a Certification Mark infringment

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
> if you check 30 seconds in the connector is completely different (otherwise > intel would have a Certification Mark infringment case on their hands) Wait, how? It's a pre-existing connector. How do you have any control over Intel's use of PCMCIA? Now if they'd *called* it EOMA68, or

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Alain Williams
On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 09:07:04AM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Alain Williams wrote: > > > Flag up interesting posts, I won't continue to look at that page. > > > https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10083875=53615691 Modded

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Nick Hardiman
> On 6 Jan 2017, at 08:52, Alain Williams wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 01:29:19AM +0100, raphael.melo...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On January 5, 2017 6:38:10 PM GMT+01:00, Alain Williams >> wrote: >>> I wonder where they got the idea from: >>> >>>

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Alain Williams wrote: > Flag up interesting posts, I won't continue to look at that page. https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10083875=53615691 ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-06 Thread Alain Williams
On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 01:29:19AM +0100, raphael.melo...@gmail.com wrote: > > On January 5, 2017 6:38:10 PM GMT+01:00, Alain Williams > wrote: > >I wonder where they got the idea from: > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 > > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread raphael . melotte
On January 5, 2017 6:38:10 PM GMT+01:00, Alain Williams wrote: >I wonder where they got the idea from: > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 > >http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/compute-card/intel-compute-card.html It's astonishing... there are so many

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Boris Barbour
I don't think the Intel announcement is bad news. Firstly it validates/builds recognition of the general idea, which may be helpful in some quarters. Second, there are plenty of people that will want the cheap, low power version, which means ARM. Intel can't do that. And they hate really pushing

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Frederickson wrote: > It's a shame that none of the previous EOMA-68 devices got off the > ground before Intel pulled this out - that's what i

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:40 PM, peter green wrote: > On 05/01/17 18:50, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >>> >>> Why would they want to cripple their product by restricting themselves to >>> the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread peter green
On 05/01/17 18:50, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: Why would they want to cripple their product by restricting themselves to the set of interfaces Luke has chosen. ?? peter!! Intel operates under a totally different set of constraints from Luke. If Luke wants to make a successor to his

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > which are, in your opinion, the "right set of interfaces"? serious > question. if you're going to make such comments, you'd better be > prepared to back them up and be prepared to justify them with a >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Alain Williams
On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 07:17:32PM +0100, Phil Hands wrote: > Alain Williams writes: > > > I wonder where they got the idea from: > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 > > > > http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/compute-card/intel-compute-card.html > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Alain Williams writes: > >> I wonder where they got the idea from: >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 >> >>

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Julie Marchant wrote: > That could be a problem. If it's successful, people will associate the > concept with Intel and assume that eoma is a cheap ripoff. Also, with

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Philip Hands
Alain Williams writes: > I wonder where they got the idea from: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 > > http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/compute-card/intel-compute-card.html That's _very_ light on details, and I note that they're careful not to show the

[Arm-netbook] Intel at CES

2017-01-05 Thread Alain Williams
I wonder where they got the idea from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38515472 http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/compute-card/intel-compute-card.html -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256