Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-31 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > On Jul 31, 2017, at 01:10, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> hiya richard, i'd like to send off a test PCB to

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-31 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hiya richard, i'd like to send off a test PCB to the factory with just the DC3 micro-hdmi on it, whilst you're happily doing the review, can i ask you the favour of checking to see if there's anything glaringly-obvious about the DC3 layout (just the DC3 footprint really). i am aware that pins 8

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > What form would you prefer my recommendations take to make them most useful? > text, text is great ( to list here ) with online links to PDFs if there are any. thanks richard. l.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-24 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Jul 22, 2017, at 02:43, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Richard Wilbur > wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for the new pictures. I'll re-target my comments to address >> the newest layout. > > appreciated. What form

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-23 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > On Jul 22, 2017, at 02:43, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> apologies for being curt the past couple days, long

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-22 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Jul 22, 2017, at 02:43, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > apologies for being curt the past couple days, long > days, very draining. Thank you for spearheading this project, for keeping at it when things got more complicated (because you now understood the problem

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: >> http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/a20_hdmi_review/ > > Thanks for the new pictures. I'll re-target my comments to address > the newest layout. appreciated. apologies for being curt the past couple days, long days,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-21 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Richard Wilbur > wrote: >> For our differential pairs we should only need one return-current-path >> via per signal via (and hopefully relatively

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-20 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Richard

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-20 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Richard Wilbur > wrote: > >> In the interest of solving the challenge of integrating the HDMI connector, >> I have a few questions: [...] >> 2. How

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-20 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Richard

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Richard Wilbur wrote: >>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 09:50, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Richard

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > > Sorry, that last post was far from complete and I'm working on a more > complete set of questions and recommendations which I hope to

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-17 Thread Richard Wilbur
Sorry, that last post was far from complete and I'm working on a more complete set of questions and recommendations which I hope to get off to you tomorrow. Any answers will be appreciated, as usual. I've been working on this primarily in the evenings over the last week or so and found 64

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-17 Thread Richard Wilbur
>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 09:50, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Richard Wilbur >> wrote: > […] >> A couple questions that spring immediately to mind: >> 1. How continuous are the ground planes under the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-04 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
ok richard i've redone the layout, and published 3 images here: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/ the 3rd one - showing the full extent of the 4 diff pairs - is enormous (right-mouse-button, view image) as it's a screenshot from this laptop's 3000x1800 LCD. so you should be able to

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-07-03 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Jun 29, 2017, at 20:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Richard Wilbur > wrote: >> Have you identified which signals are affected? > > no - i do not have access to equipment which will allow me to make > such a

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > Until I get an opportunity to review the design files it is difficult to make > detailed recommendations. Have you identified which

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-29 Thread Richard Wilbur
Until I get an opportunity to review the design files it is difficult to make detailed recommendations. Have you identified which signals are affected? Have you been able to determine which signals are leaking into the affected signals? If the image posted with the update[*] is

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Richard Wilbur wrote: >> On Jun 25, 2017, at 20:09, Alexander Ross >> wrote: >> While i would appreciate having hdmi. I’ll be

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 09:56:12PM -0600, Richard Wilbur wrote: ... ... > 6. Did this message (composed on my iPhone E-mail client) come through in > HTML or simple text? I got it as simple text. There was not even an HTML attachment. -- hendrik

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-26 Thread zap
On 06/25/2017 10:07 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:00 AM, zap wrote: > >>> 1,000 8GB MicroSD cards is no longer really an option. >> Well, even on request if we are willing to pay for the sd cards? just >> curious. > that would work.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:00 AM, zap wrote: >> 1,000 8GB MicroSD cards is no longer really an option. > Well, even on request if we are willing to pay for the sd cards? just > curious. that would work. ___ arm-netbook mailing

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-25 Thread zap
>> but more importantly documentation with the order on how to start things >> up, etc, > that bit's done-ish but it'll be necessary to duplicate it on an > appropriate location for the project. > > the issue we have is that the available budget is now severely and > unavoidably depleted (as

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, zap wrote: > Honestly, I am beginning to wonder... because don't you need some memory > storage on the system to boot it up? one of the available boot options (SDC0, NAND, SDC2, SPI) yes. > I think some people on request may want it

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Pablo Rath wrote: > To provide my own SD card doesn't bother me at all. > The missing HDMI would be bad. i know. > If this scenario happens maybe we can > talk about a special offer for a micro desktop. that's a great idea.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-25 Thread Pablo Rath
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 05:33:36PM +0200, Vincent Legoll wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: > > appreciated. there are however some people who would have pledged > > only for the card, and the cable kit: they'll be expecting to use the

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:47 AM, zap wrote: >> [... RK3388 ...] > Ah that makes a lot of sense. Thank you, do you know when it will be > released? not at all. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread zap
On 06/21/2017 05:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:17 PM, wrote: > >> Was it not rk3399? > no it's an as-yet unannounced SoC, i met someone at computex who > showed me a prototype board with this chip on it, so i know it's >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
p.s. ron, well done for trimming unnecessary context. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:17 PM, wrote: > Was it not rk3399? no it's an as-yet unannounced SoC, i met someone at computex who showed me a prototype board with this chip on it, so i know it's definitely named RK3388 and not anything else. l.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread ronwirring
> SoC, the RK3388 (yes it really does exist). also i'm waiting for some Was it not rk3399? > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:37 PM, zap wrote: > Let me know if this is a problem that I ask this, but where do I find > rk3388 on the web, I was curious about its description and what not, you don't. > Is this processor a octacore? quad. > just curious because if so, it

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:11 PM, zap wrote: > Wait... how much ram would you have then as supported. I mean, you did > say 4gb would be the limit right? 4gb yes. > Also, the RK3388 will it be easier or > harder to reverse engineer? just curious. contact is working on

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread zap
>> i stopped working on it for a while as i may have a lead on a better >> SoC, the RK3388 (yes it really does exist). also i'm waiting for some >> equipmnt to arrive so i can put on 2 extra DDR3x16 RAM ICs. > Wait... how much ram would you have then as supported. I mean, you did > say 4gb

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > appreciated. there are however some people who would have pledged > only for the card, and the cable kit: they'll be expecting to use the > cards stand-alone. Yes, there are some of those, I'm one for

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook, Saw the update,

2017-06-21 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:56 PM, zap wrote: > I wish you the best Luke. I will also say, that if you cannot get hdmi > working it won't bother me. Also, if micro sd cards are too expensive, > I really don't care about that either. It's all good dude. > > Just as long as the