Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-27 Thread Jean Flamelle
On 7/27/18, Alexander Ross wrote: > one thing ive wondered about is a https for payment address. so you know > the crypto currently address or fait payment info is verified for that > person. like you know a https site is the site it says it is. A blockchain dao could be setup for people to sign

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-27 Thread Alexander Ross
one thing ive wondered about is a https for payment address. so you know the crypto currently address or fait payment info is verified for that person. like you know a https site is the site it says it is. ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-27 Thread Jean Flamelle
It proves the device was loaded by the owner of that private key. That individual can accept accountability for whatever materials exist on that device, indemnifying whatever vendor sells or makes available the device (i.e. a library). If content on the device isn't properly attributed or is

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If all someone has to do to donate to an artist, is scan an extra QR > code at checkout or ask to have their cash converted to cryptocurrency So, IIUC you're suggesting the QR to be a (hopefully reliable) way to find the author so as to be able to give him money? I can see why that would be

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-26 Thread Jean Flamelle
But is it not also an issue of them finding us? We talk for granted that we are all part information researchers. We are justly capable of elaborate standalone complex organized searches through the internet for talent and meaningful message. This not even a tenth of the population involves

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-26 Thread Louis Pearson
I think the best way to support free culture is to find artists that are making it a support them, via sites like liberapay or patreon. The issue here is *not* technical. As Stefan is saying, this is exactly the sort of thinking that got us DRM. Again, find free culture creators and support them

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> All you have in your device is a bit-stream which the end-user can't trust > Not really, since (hopefully) they buy the device through trusted > channels (i.e. a local store with cash). If they trust the channel, then what additional guarantee does the "cryptographic key" provide? > The

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-25 Thread Jean Flamelle
Stefan: > All you have in your device is a bit-stream which the end-user can't trust Not really, since (hopefully) they buy the device through trusted channels (i.e. a local store with cash). The cryptographic key, (hopefully) proves that the device was flashed by the makers of whatever video is

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > One fly in the ointment is that, at least according to my understanding, > power on the HDMI is part of VESA (Video Electronics Standards Association) > DDC (Display Data Channel) support. > As such the power is supplied by the video

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-24 Thread Richard Wilbur
On Jul 22, 2018, at 15:11, Jean Flamelle wrote: > > Encourage copying, modifying, as well as redistributing the content. By this do you mean an unencrypted output over HDMI (without HDCP in other words)? > However build a culture of the 'Unpause-able Player Stick': How do we "encourage

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-24 Thread Richard Wilbur
> On Jul 22, 2018, at 16:48, Jean Flamelle wrote: > > The device being airgapped so that the only input is power, should > socially suggest that one can't be tampered with or forged (i.e. by > extracting a signing key). One fly in the ointment is that, at least according to my understanding,

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-24 Thread rhkramer
I don't think I understand (even though I read all the followups in the thead up to Stefan Monnier's post of Tue Jul 24 08:27:30 2018, so I've added some comments / questions below: On Sunday, July 22, 2018 05:11:28 PM Jean Flamelle wrote: > So the thought is pretty simple. > > A monofunction

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The advantage is social, stating "I've supported this art, > this stick generates the QR code that proves that" I still don't understand in how your device is supposed to state that. All you have in your device is a bit-stream which the end-user can't trust, so in order to validate any kind of

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-23 Thread Richard Wilbur
> On Jul 22, 2018, at 15:11, Jean Flamelle wrote: > > A monofunction PCB that when power is supplied from the HDMI, > generates a private key signature, displays it as a QR code for a few > moments, then plays whatever video is stored on nand. > > The QR code confirms the legitimacy or

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-22 Thread Jean Flamelle
On 7/22/18, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Blu-rays and DVDs are essentially dead tech This depends highly on the region. Most fictional media still grossly depends on the sale of DVDs and Blu-rays, where-ever marketing for such merch turns out effective. (i.e. Japan, major cities with relevant

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-22 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
‎> "Merch Alternative" I mean like instead of DRM Blu-rays or DVDs etc. Blu-rays and DVDs are essentially dead tech at this point. I have a hard time even giving away free DVDs anymore because people don't have players.‎ ___ arm-netbook mailing list

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-22 Thread Jean Flamelle
The advantage is social, stating "I've supported this art, this stick generates the QR code that proves that" "Merch Alternative" I mean like instead of DRM Blu-rays or DVDs etc. The device being airgapped so that the only input is power, should socially suggest that one can't be tampered with

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI Player Stick as DRM-free Merch Alternative

2018-07-22 Thread Richard Wilbur
Sounds interesting. This sounds like a bit of 'how'. The 'why' is alluded to in the title but not so much in the body. I can understand DRM-free to allow more freedom to user. What I'm missing is more of what advantages the user reaps from using this device. Does the user purchase, rent,