[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ dmesg errors

[Peter Robinson]

Hi Felix,

Sorry for the late delay, some how this message hit my spam box.

> I managed to get Fedora 30 AARCH64 installed on a RPI 3B+ and it mostly runs 
> great but I'm hitting a couple issues that I'm just not sure where to start 
> looking.
>
> In order to make sure it's not the set of packages I'm installing, I brought 
> up a second RPI 3B+ that runs the official minimal image. I installed all the 
> same packages on the kicked system, that the minimal version has, so I don't 
> have differences.

What doe you mean by "official minimal image"? Do you mean Fedora or Rasbian?

> 1. The NIC LED doesn't work after the installation. It works normally during 
> kickstart. Connectivity is not affected. NIC LED works fine with the official 
> image.
> 2. I get these messages in dmesg on a kicked system that are not poping up on 
> the minimal image system:
> ...
> [0.00] CPU features: detected: Kernel page table isolation (KPTI)
> ...
> [0.011655] arch_timer: WARNING: Invalid trigger for IRQ75, assuming level 
> low
> [0.011658] arch_timer: WARNING: Please fix your firmware
> ...
> [1.887602] kvm [1]: Invalid trigger for vtimer IRQ76, assuming level low

Most of those can be ignored. In part it might depend on the answer to
the question above.

> 3. Looks like the model that is being detected is different for both systems 
> (where does that come from? Does that have effects somewhere?):
> Minimal image:
> [0.00] Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+
>
> Kickstart:
> [0.00] Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus Rev 1.3

That message comes from the DT if it's provided by the firmware, which
would also explain some of the differences above.

> 4. The kickstarted system has an additional CPU feature that the minimal 
> image system doesn't have (They should have the same CPU?)
> [0.00] CPU features: detected: Kernel page table isolation (KPTI)

Is there a kernel version difference?

> 5. There is a couple more differences like hci initialization and other 
> things. Isn't this part of the kernel support? And the kernel is the same on 
> both systems.

What does "uname -a" report? I suspect the difference here is the use
of the firmware provided DT vs kernel provided.

Do you have a symlink if you do a "ls -al /boot/dtb/" in both systems?

> Is there documentation around the generation of the RPI image? I replicated 
> the kickstart file that can be found under /root on the minimal image but 
> that alone didn't help above issues. Maybe there is something special about 
> the environment this image is generated in?
>
> Thanks
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 5:33 PM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:35 AM Peter Robinson  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My 
> > > > > > SSH
> > > > > > session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
> > > > > > When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has 
> > > > > > changed.
> >
> > Weird, I have around a dozen RPi 2/3 class devices on both wired and
> > wireless network with a dual stack IPv4/IPv6 and I don't see that at
> > all (and never have).
> >
> > Nor have I had other reports.
> >
> > > > > This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/
> > > >
> > > > You are probably right.
> > > >
> > > > I shutdown the radio with a command similar to 'dcicm radio off' and I
> > > > stopped getting kicked of the wired LAN. I can't find the command in
> > > > my Bash history, which is kind of odd.
> > >
> > > Here was the command:
> > >
> > > nmcli radio wifi off
> >
> > That will turn the wifi off but if you're not connected to a wireless
> > network it won't have any effect.
> >
> > To disable IPv6 privacy on the wired interface you can do:
> >
> > nmcli connection modify eth0 ipv6.ip6-privacy 0
> >
> > There's a couple of blog posts with some good details:
> > https://major.io/2016/04/17/enable-ipv6-privacy-networkmanager/
> > https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/12/03/networkmanager-and-privacy-in-the-ipv6-internet/
>
> This problem showed back up this morning. This morning the kernel was
> updated to 4.20.13-200 and the machine was rebooted.



> > > This device just keeps getting weirder. I miss the old days when
> > > things just worked...
> >
> > Is it just the unstable addressing that's weird, or something else?
>
> This IP address problem, Bash's reverse search not working, missing
> utilities, ...

For the reverse search I suggest filing a bug with bash [1], all the
utilities you're missing should be installable with dnf (you don't
actually mention what you think is missing) and the IP address is a
hard one, network issues are very dependent on the local network to
debug.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:35 AM Peter Robinson  wrote:
>
> > > > > This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My SSH
> > > > > session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
> > > > > When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has changed.
>
> Weird, I have around a dozen RPi 2/3 class devices on both wired and
> wireless network with a dual stack IPv4/IPv6 and I don't see that at
> all (and never have).
>
> Nor have I had other reports.
>
> > > > This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.
> > > >
> > > > https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/
> > >
> > > You are probably right.
> > >
> > > I shutdown the radio with a command similar to 'dcicm radio off' and I
> > > stopped getting kicked of the wired LAN. I can't find the command in
> > > my Bash history, which is kind of odd.
> >
> > Here was the command:
> >
> > nmcli radio wifi off
>
> That will turn the wifi off but if you're not connected to a wireless
> network it won't have any effect.
>
> To disable IPv6 privacy on the wired interface you can do:
>
> nmcli connection modify eth0 ipv6.ip6-privacy 0
>
> There's a couple of blog posts with some good details:
> https://major.io/2016/04/17/enable-ipv6-privacy-networkmanager/
> https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/12/03/networkmanager-and-privacy-in-the-ipv6-internet/

This problem showed back up this morning. This morning the kernel was
updated to 4.20.13-200 and the machine was rebooted.

Sigh...

> > This device just keeps getting weirder. I miss the old days when
> > things just worked...
>
> Is it just the unstable addressing that's weird, or something else?

This IP address problem, Bash's reverse search not working, missing
utilities, ...

Jeff
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Peter Robinson]

> > > > This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My SSH
> > > > session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
> > > > When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has changed.

Weird, I have around a dozen RPi 2/3 class devices on both wired and
wireless network with a dual stack IPv4/IPv6 and I don't see that at
all (and never have).

Nor have I had other reports.

> > > This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.
> > >
> > > https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/
> >
> > You are probably right.
> >
> > I shutdown the radio with a command similar to 'dcicm radio off' and I
> > stopped getting kicked of the wired LAN. I can't find the command in
> > my Bash history, which is kind of odd.
>
> Here was the command:
>
> nmcli radio wifi off

That will turn the wifi off but if you're not connected to a wireless
network it won't have any effect.

To disable IPv6 privacy on the wired interface you can do:

nmcli connection modify eth0 ipv6.ip6-privacy 0

There's a couple of blog posts with some good details:
https://major.io/2016/04/17/enable-ipv6-privacy-networkmanager/
https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/12/03/networkmanager-and-privacy-in-the-ipv6-internet/

> This device just keeps getting weirder. I miss the old days when
> things just worked...

Is it just the unstable addressing that's weird, or something else?
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:31 PM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:31 PM Stuart D. Gathman  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >
> > > This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My SSH
> > > session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
> > > When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has changed.
> >
> > This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.
> >
> > https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/
>
> You are probably right.
>
> I shutdown the radio with a command similar to 'dcicm radio off' and I
> stopped getting kicked of the wired LAN. I can't find the command in
> my Bash history, which is kind of odd.

Here was the command:

nmcli radio wifi off

CRTL+R 'off' did not work in Bash (nothing found), but I found it
cat'ing .bash_history. Weird.

This device just keeps getting weirder. I miss the old days when
things just worked...

Jeff
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:31 PM Stuart D. Gathman  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> > This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My SSH
> > session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
> > When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has changed.
>
> This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.
>
> https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/

You are probably right.

I shutdown the radio with a command similar to 'dcicm radio off' and I
stopped getting kicked of the wired LAN. I can't find the command in
my Bash history, which is kind of odd.

What does wireless IPv6 have to do with wired IPv4 LAN addresses?

Jeff
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image changing IP every half hour

[Stuart D. Gathman]

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Jeffrey Walton wrote:


This is kind of unusual. Raspberry Pi 3 B+ with Aarch64 image. My SSH
session keeps dying. I've noticed it happens about every half hour.
When I log into the physical machine I see the IP address has changed.


This sounds like the IPv6 privacy option.

https://blog.linitx.com/control-privacy-addressing-ipv6-linux/

--
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Chris Hall]

Awesome, thanks!

On Sat., 28 Apr. 2018, 11:30 pm Peter Robinson, 
wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Chris Hall 
> wrote:
> > Peter sorry for the confusion and thank you for the prompt reply
> > Re rpi-3-b-plus.
> >  in your reply to Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Tomáš Frolík
> >  you wrote.
> >
> > "Once it's running if you update the kernel to rc6 you should be
> > running just fine. One other thing to note is there's some different
> > bits needed for the wifi. I'm going to put all of those, inc the one
> > needed for the original Pi3, into an rpm but I've not had a chance to
> > do that as yet. Give me a day or so and I'll likely get that done."
> >
> > This is what I was enquiring about. I have fedora 28 beta running on a
> > Raspberry pi 3B+ all good but no wifi.
>
> Details here, and updated in the wiki:
> https://nullr0ute.com/2018/04/the-raspberry-pi-3-b-in-fedora/
>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Chris Hall  wrote:
> Peter sorry for the confusion and thank you for the prompt reply
> Re rpi-3-b-plus.
>  in your reply to Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Tomáš Frolík
>  you wrote.
>
> "Once it's running if you update the kernel to rc6 you should be
> running just fine. One other thing to note is there's some different
> bits needed for the wifi. I'm going to put all of those, inc the one
> needed for the original Pi3, into an rpm but I've not had a chance to
> do that as yet. Give me a day or so and I'll likely get that done."
>
> This is what I was enquiring about. I have fedora 28 beta running on a
> Raspberry pi 3B+ all good but no wifi.

Details here, and updated in the wiki:
https://nullr0ute.com/2018/04/the-raspberry-pi-3-b-in-fedora/
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Patrick Pichon]

+1 in order to follow that stream.
Currently waiting for my RPi3+ 
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Chris Hall]

Peter sorry for the confusion and thank you for the prompt reply
Re rpi-3-b-plus.
 in your reply to Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Tomáš Frolík
 you wrote.

"Once it's running if you update the kernel to rc6 you should be
running just fine. One other thing to note is there's some different
bits needed for the wifi. I'm going to put all of those, inc the one
needed for the original Pi3, into an rpm but I've not had a chance to
do that as yet. Give me a day or so and I'll likely get that done."

This is what I was enquiring about. I have fedora 28 beta running on a
Raspberry pi 3B+ all good but no wifi.

Regards Chris Hall
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Chris Hall]

Peter sorry for the confusion and thank you for the prompt reply
Re rpi-3-b-plus.
 in your reply to Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Tomáš Frolík
 you wrote.

"Once it's running if you update the kernel to rc6 you should be
running just fine. One other thing to note is there's some different
bits needed for the wifi. I'm going to put all of those, inc the one
needed for the original Pi3, into an rpm but I've not had a chance to
do that as yet. Give me a day or so and I'll likely get that done."

This is what I was enquiring about. I have fedora 28 beta running in a
3B+ all good but no wifi.

Regards Chris Hall
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:06 AM, Chris Hall  wrote:
> Hello Peter,
> Have you created the wifi RPM yet if so where can it be obtained

See the other response to the identical message you've already sent.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:04 AM, Chris Hall  wrote:
> Peter have you created the wifi RPM yet if to where can it be obtained.

rpm to what? You've trimmed any context, I deal with literally 100s of
rpms a day in all sorts of context so it's kind of useful to have that
;-)
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Chris Hall]

Hello Peter,
Have you created the wifi RPM yet if so where can it be obtained
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Chris Hall]

Peter have you created the wifi RPM yet if to where can it be obtained.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Eric Sandeen]

On 4/2/18 7:05 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Tomáš Frolík  wrote:
>> Peter, I would like to as You, whether the onboard-wired-ethernet problem on 
>> RPi3+ was solved in current F28 test release (31.3.2018). If not, can You 
>> provide any indication when it could be?
> 
> I don't know what you mean by "I would like to as You", please note
> that I provide the support for RPi in my own time as and when I have
> spare time.
> 
> That said I did pull in some patches that should improve a bunch of
> things on the 3+but they're not in an official build just yet, you can
> get a scratch kernel [1] and report back whether they improved your
> situation. There's a couple of patches that might improve the wired
> lan but I've not currently got access to ethernet to test as I'm
> currently traveling.
> 
> [1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=26121358

That kernel did fix the "mac address changes every reboot" for me.
And yes, the ethernet port does still work.  ;)
Thanks!

And the ethernet port LEDS ... I seem to have a flashing amber
activity LED, and the green LED is off.

-Eric
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Tomáš Frolík  wrote:
> Peter, I would like to as You, whether the onboard-wired-ethernet problem on 
> RPi3+ was solved in current F28 test release (31.3.2018). If not, can You 
> provide any indication when it could be?

I don't know what you mean by "I would like to as You", please note
that I provide the support for RPi in my own time as and when I have
spare time.

That said I did pull in some patches that should improve a bunch of
things on the 3+but they're not in an official build just yet, you can
get a scratch kernel [1] and report back whether they improved your
situation. There's a couple of patches that might improve the wired
lan but I've not currently got access to ethernet to test as I'm
currently traveling.

[1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=26121358
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Tomáš Frolík]

Peter, I would like to as You, whether the onboard-wired-ethernet problem on 
RPi3+ was solved in current F28 test release (31.3.2018). If not, can You 
provide any indication when it could be?
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Richard Ryniker]

>I tried an image I has never used before
>(Fedora-KDE-armhfp-28-20180325.n.0-sda.raw.xz). And it works.

Good to hear.  It seems only gdm (or maybe gnome-shell) is broken (fails
to display the graphical login screen.)  I just tried the LXDE image
Fedora-LXDE-armhfp-28-20180325.n.0-sda.raw.xz and it works fine.  The
wired Ethernet connection is still broken, but my USB wired Ethernet
adapter has no problem.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Tomáš Frolík]

Finally, I also succeeded. As hopeless act I tried an image I has never used 
before (Fedora-KDE-armhfp-28-20180325.n.0-sda.raw.xz). And it works. By mistake 
I changed /etc/systemd/system/default.target by wrong way, but RPi was able to 
launch KDE GUI. It is not so spry as on PC but it works. When I have changed 
default.target link to multi-user, it boots into text mode. Perfect! The only 
essential thing which is still not working is ethernet. I hope it will be 
solved in some next releases, without the functionality I can do "nearly 
nothing" on my RPi. But following the steps on the way to booting RPi 3+ was 
for me very instructive, I learned a lot of. Thank You both, guys!

At the end, for potential followers, I wrote down all the necessary steps, how 
to prepare SD card before you insert it into your RPi 3+. It is valid for now, 
for Fedora versions, which are available nowadays, for some stable versions, 
which will come in the future, it will be valid no more (I guess0. It is 
know-how I acquired from the thread.

> fedora-arm-image-installer 
> --image=Fedora-KDE-armhfp-28-20180325.n.0-sda.raw.xz --target=rpi3 
> --media=/dev/mmcblk0 --norootpass --resizefs --selinux=off
> mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /tmp/sd2;mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /tmp/sd4
> cp -p /tmp/sd2/dtb-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28.armv7hl
/bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb 
/tmp/sd2/dtb-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28.armv7hl
/bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb
> rm -f /tmp/sd4/etc/systemd/system/default.target
> ln -s /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target 
> /tmp/sd4/etc/systemd/system/default.target
> umount /dev/mmcblk0p2;umount /dev/mmcblk0p4
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Richard Ryniker]

Did you change the default boot target from graphical.target to
mult-user.target?  That is what I had to do to avoid the problem with
graphical login to my RPi.

Of course, without a working network connection, you might feel it is not
worth the bother, but my machine boots OK to a text console login without
any Ethernet cable connected to it.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Tomáš Frolík]

I followed steps you described above. I've gotten over before but not to the 
text login prompt as you. First time I was prompted in GUI env. to create 
account, set password etc. Then the machine was stucked. During 2nd, 3rd... 
reboot RPi stucks after following lines:
[84.352264] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[84.615587] lan78xx 1-1.1.1:1.0 eth0: kevent 4 may have been dropped
[84.634601] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[84.932181] bridge: filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables is no longer available by 
default. Update your scripts to load br_netfilter if you need this
...and that was all.

I have no ethernet dongle. LAN cable was disconnected. That is the difference 
between my and your hardware setup. Maybe it could be the reason.

Probably I will stop to spend time with attempts to boot just developed F28 
distribution and will wait for official release, which should be available and 
hopefully prepared for RPi3+ without manual intervention (based on road map 
info) at the beginning of May 2018 - it is not so long.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Richard Ryniker  wrote:
> Thank you, Peter Robinson, your instructions worked beautifully.
>
> Perhaps this will not work with the aarch64 version used by Tomáš Frolík,
> but you already explained in an earlier post why there is little reason
> to use that on a Raspberry Pi.

It should work in exactly the same way, the only difference on aarch64
is that the DT is in a broadcom sub directory.

> I used the following to install on a SD card:
>
> fedora-arm-image-installer 
> --image=fedora/F28/Fedora-Workstation-armhfp-28-20180324.n.0-sda.raw.xz 
> --target=rpi3 --media=/dev/sde --norootpass --resizefs --selinux=off
>
> and copied the dtb file to bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb as described, and
> then successfully booted my Raspberry Pi 3B+.
>
> After completion of the first-boot dialog, things pretty much fell
> apart.  I saw the expected pointer on my screen, but the machine stuck
> before it displayed the graphical login screen.  There was no response to
> my attempt to switch to another terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F4 or Alt-F4.
>
> I mounted my SD card on my regular Fedora workstation, then manually
> changed the default target to multi-user.target.  This worked much
> better, I could log in and discover the RPi wired Ethernet is not
> operational.
>
> Bypass this problem with a USB Ethernet dongle (which is automatically
> configured without any problems), and I can run "dnf upgrade" which
> mostly succeeds (there is a problem with libvirt-daemon, but that occurs
> with the RPi 3B also.)
>
> Reboot, and I now have an (except for libvirt-daemon) up-to-date F28 on my
> Raspberry Pi 3B+.
>
> No graphical login and no wired Ethernet are problems to be solved, but
> at least there is a path to get a current F28 environment on the 3B+ for
> those who want to work on this machine.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Richard Ryniker]

Thank you, Peter Robinson, your instructions worked beautifully.

Perhaps this will not work with the aarch64 version used by Tomáš Frolík,
but you already explained in an earlier post why there is little reason
to use that on a Raspberry Pi.

I used the following to install on a SD card:

fedora-arm-image-installer 
--image=fedora/F28/Fedora-Workstation-armhfp-28-20180324.n.0-sda.raw.xz 
--target=rpi3 --media=/dev/sde --norootpass --resizefs --selinux=off

and copied the dtb file to bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb as described, and
then successfully booted my Raspberry Pi 3B+.

After completion of the first-boot dialog, things pretty much fell
apart.  I saw the expected pointer on my screen, but the machine stuck
before it displayed the graphical login screen.  There was no response to
my attempt to switch to another terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F4 or Alt-F4.

I mounted my SD card on my regular Fedora workstation, then manually
changed the default target to multi-user.target.  This worked much
better, I could log in and discover the RPi wired Ethernet is not
operational.

Bypass this problem with a USB Ethernet dongle (which is automatically
configured without any problems), and I can run "dnf upgrade" which
mostly succeeds (there is a problem with libvirt-daemon, but that occurs
with the RPi 3B also.)

Reboot, and I now have an (except for libvirt-daemon) up-to-date F28 on my
Raspberry Pi 3B+.

No graphical login and no wired Ethernet are problems to be solved, but
at least there is a path to get a current F28 environment on the 3B+ for
those who want to work on this machine.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Tomáš Frolík]

Hello Peter,

thank You very much for your quick and exhaustive answer and hint. I spent some 
time with the issue (to the joy of my wife) but I was not successful. My RPi 3+ 
is still not booting. Just for recapitulation:
- I downloaded Fedora-Server-28-20180323.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz from 
http://mirror.vutbr.cz/fedora/development/28/Server/aarch64/images/ .There is 
newer one today evening.
- dd copy on SD card
- make copy operation mentioned by You above, with result
root@wolf > ls -l /tmp/sd2/dtb-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28.aarch64/broadcom  
total 48 
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 12667 Mar  5 06:50 bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb 
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 12667 Mar 25 22:28 bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb
- SD card into RPi 3+ and power on

RPi 3+ reaches during its startup Grub menu, after kernel selection is 
confirmed blank screen follows and that is all. There has to be something more 
to do or I made a mistake somewhere.

Tom
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Peter Robinson]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Tomáš Frolík  wrote:
> I am a fan Fedora project and Raspberry, too, I have a whole new piece RPi 3+ 
> in the drawer for only a few days. Nevertheless, there is no functional 
> combination RPi 3+ and Fedora. I will be excited when it will be ready to 
> use. Can you here indicate the functional image is released when it will 
> happen?

Everything is in Fedora 28+ now well almost. The 4.16rc6 kernel
has a bootable DT, that's not yet in the F-28 nightly images though
due to the beta freeze.

There's all the bits in the firmware/u-boot though. So on a F-28
nightly image if you set a card up as per usual for a Raspberry Pi 3
and then do one other command it'll boot.

Once you've set up the card all you have to do is copy the RPi3 DT to
a 3plus DT and it'll do an initial boot. Once it's booted you can then
just upgrade the kernel and it'll be fine moving forward.

On ARMv7 basically do the following:
cp /dtb-kernel-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28/bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb
/dtb-kernel-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28/bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb

On aarch64:
cp /dtb-kernel-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28/broadcom/bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb
/dtb-kernel-4.16.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc28/broadcom/bcm2837-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb

Unmount boot and continue as usual.

Once it's running if you update the kernel to rc6 you should be
running just fine. One other thing to note is there's some different
bits needed for the wifi. I'm going to put all of those, inc the one
needed for the original Pi3, into an rpm but I've not had a chance to
do that as yet. Give me a day or so and I'll likely get that done.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Tomáš Frolík]

I am a fan Fedora project and Raspberry, too, I have a whole new piece RPi 3+ 
in the drawer for only a few days. Nevertheless, there is no functional 
combination RPi 3+ and Fedora. I will be excited when it will be ready to use. 
Can you here indicate the functional image is released when it will happen?
Tom
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Richard Ryniker]

>I'm undecided whether I want to do the related work to get this support
>into F-27.

With F28 beta just a week or two away, I suggest that is the appropriate
target.  
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3+

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Richard Ryniker  wrote:
> F27 will not boot on the new Model 3+.  Green LED blinks 4 times
> (medium), then 4 times (fast), then repeats.  The colored splash screen
> is displayed.

That's expected.

> Might this be just a device tree problem?  Raspbian journal contains a line:

No, it's a firmware, u-boot and device tree problem.

> raspberrypi kernel: OF: fdt:Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus Rev 1.3
>
> Do we just need a bcm2710-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb file in Fedora's /boot
> filesystem?  Has anyone succeeded to boot Fedora on the 3+ Pi?

Yes, I have support there and it works fine, we'll almost be there for
F-28 beta with likely just a small process to get it to boot
initially. I'm undecided whether I want to do the related work to get
this support into F-27.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B Gpio

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Richard Ryniker  wrote:
>>Yes, there's python3-libsoc which should support the RPi.
>
> libsoc uses the old, deprecated sysfs interface to access GPIO resources
> from user space.  I wrote a Python module to use the newer, file
> descriptor ioctl interface.  See:
>
>   http://ryniker.org/raspberrypi/Fedora/gpiofd.py
>
> I welcome reports of problems, or suggestions for improvement.

I would sooner a issue/PR files upstream against libsoc instead of yet
another GPIO library.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B Gpio

[Richard Ryniker]

>Yes, there's python3-libsoc which should support the RPi.

libsoc uses the old, deprecated sysfs interface to access GPIO resources
from user space.  I wrote a Python module to use the newer, file
descriptor ioctl interface.  See:

  http://ryniker.org/raspberrypi/Fedora/gpiofd.py

I welcome reports of problems, or suggestions for improvement.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3 B Gpio

[Peter Robinson]

 On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM,   wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to ask, is it any possibilities to use the GPIO headers from a 
> python program or from the userspace to control switches via the GPIO headers?
> If not out of the box, but is there any possibilities, to write a device tree 
> overlay?

Yes, there's python3-libsoc which should support the RPi. There's some
tools in the kernel-tools for gpio, the lsgpio is one to see the
available ones. In terms of DT overlay, we have all the bits in Fedora
26 (u-boot, kernel, compiler) to support it but I've not had time to
test and document the process, I'd love help there for test and docs
or plan (hope) to get it done by F-26 GA.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Not trying to pry, but what did you find out?

Issues with i2c drivers that were back ported from 4.10, see the issue
there as well, the issues that were fixed by can wait, I'll need to
see what the issue as it's seen there too.

> It locked up on me after it sat idle for a bit, then after I logged in and 
> gnome started it froze. sitting at the login itself didn't seem to freeze it.
>
>
> The package solaar for my logitech k400 wireless keyboard, goes through the 
> boot text then stops like it started the graphical interface on another 
> device. Removing the package fixes it.

No idea about any thing about that.

> Also do you happen to know where the system time is being picked up from 
> initially? Every boot starts from july 25. It is a minor annoyance.

Possibly the date of creation of the filesystem, the Raspberry Pi
doesn't have an onboard battery backed RTC to ensure current time
across reboots.

>
>
> Jul 25 15:50:31 raspi3 chronyd[685]: System clock wrong by 17015391.894310 
> seconds, adjustment started
> Feb 07 13:20:23 raspi3 systemd[1]: Time has been changed
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
> To: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
> Cc: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>; Winfried de Heiden 
> <w...@dds.nl>; "arm@lists.fedoraproject.org" <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net> wrote:
>> Any updates on this issue?
>
> Two things on this:
> 1) I do the support for the Raspberry Pi in my own time when I have
> the time and there's not other things more pressing. I have been
> literally traveling for the last two weeks. Anyone is able to assist
> with this.
> 2) If I've not explicitly sent an update or asked for people to test
> there's probably not an update.
>
> That said I worked on this until 2am and I think I've possibly got to
> the cause of the problem and might have a short term solution to the
> problem, Sadly it's going to need more work for 4.10 :-(
>
> Based on 2) above I'll be replying to this thread when I have
> something that people can actually test.
>
>
>>  I can't seem to capture the kernel panic.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:12 AM Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
>>> > keyboard or HDMI display.
>>>
>>> I'm suspecting this is some type of thermal issue. I was home very
>>> briefly and got two devices setup (I have around 6 various RPis) and
>>> they both seemed to be OK, and the RPi3 wasn't hot to touch but in the
>>> interim since I left it appears to have locked up so I'll have to look
>>> at this closer when I get some spare cycles and am actually in the
>>> same location as the devices.
>>>
>>> If someone can do some debug and identify which kernel it regressed (I
>>> suspect when we moved to 4.9.x) it would help as at the moment I have
>>> limited time to deal with this (It's a personal not $dayjob project).
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Confirm:
>>> >>
>>> >> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
>>> >> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The
>>> >> keyboard
>>> >> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and
>>> >> I
>>> >> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
>>> >> using..."
>>> >>
>>> >> Seems exactly the same for me :(
>>> >>
>>> >> Winfried
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>>> >>
>>> >> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
>>> >> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>>> >> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>> >> Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson
>>> 

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Sean Omalley]

Not trying to pry, but what did you find out? 

It locked up on me after it sat idle for a bit, then after I logged in and 
gnome started it froze. sitting at the login itself didn't seem to freeze it. 


The package solaar for my logitech k400 wireless keyboard, goes through the 
boot text then stops like it started the graphical interface on another device. 
Removing the package fixes it. 


Also do you happen to know where the system time is being picked up from 
initially? Every boot starts from july 25. It is a minor annoyance. 



Jul 25 15:50:31 raspi3 chronyd[685]: System clock wrong by 17015391.894310 
seconds, adjustment started
Feb 07 13:20:23 raspi3 systemd[1]: Time has been changed





- Original Message -
From: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
To: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
Cc: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>; Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>; 
"arm@lists.fedoraproject.org" <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net> wrote:
> Any updates on this issue?

Two things on this:
1) I do the support for the Raspberry Pi in my own time when I have
the time and there's not other things more pressing. I have been
literally traveling for the last two weeks. Anyone is able to assist
with this.
2) If I've not explicitly sent an update or asked for people to test
there's probably not an update.

That said I worked on this until 2am and I think I've possibly got to
the cause of the problem and might have a short term solution to the
problem, Sadly it's going to need more work for 4.10 :-(

Based on 2) above I'll be replying to this thread when I have
something that people can actually test.


>  I can't seem to capture the kernel panic.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:12 AM Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
>> > keyboard or HDMI display.
>>
>> I'm suspecting this is some type of thermal issue. I was home very
>> briefly and got two devices setup (I have around 6 various RPis) and
>> they both seemed to be OK, and the RPi3 wasn't hot to touch but in the
>> interim since I left it appears to have locked up so I'll have to look
>> at this closer when I get some spare cycles and am actually in the
>> same location as the devices.
>>
>> If someone can do some debug and identify which kernel it regressed (I
>> suspect when we moved to 4.9.x) it would help as at the moment I have
>> limited time to deal with this (It's a personal not $dayjob project).
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Confirm:
>> >>
>> >> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
>> >> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The
>> >> keyboard
>> >> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and
>> >> I
>> >> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
>> >> using..."
>> >>
>> >> Seems exactly the same for me :(
>> >>
>> >> Winfried
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>> >>
>> >> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
>> >> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>> >> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> >> Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson
>> >> <pbrobin...@gmail.com>, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
>> >> Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>> >> Van: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I
>> >> have
>> >> updated (which took around 10 hours.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was
>> >> off,
>> >> as it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time.
>> >> The
>> >> keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked
>> >> up,
>> >> and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
>> >>

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net> wrote:
> Any updates on this issue?

Two things on this:
1) I do the support for the Raspberry Pi in my own time when I have
the time and there's not other things more pressing. I have been
literally traveling for the last two weeks. Anyone is able to assist
with this.
2) If I've not explicitly sent an update or asked for people to test
there's probably not an update.

That said I worked on this until 2am and I think I've possibly got to
the cause of the problem and might have a short term solution to the
problem, Sadly it's going to need more work for 4.10 :-(

Based on 2) above I'll be replying to this thread when I have
something that people can actually test.

>  I can't seem to capture the kernel panic.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:12 AM Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
>> > keyboard or HDMI display.
>>
>> I'm suspecting this is some type of thermal issue. I was home very
>> briefly and got two devices setup (I have around 6 various RPis) and
>> they both seemed to be OK, and the RPi3 wasn't hot to touch but in the
>> interim since I left it appears to have locked up so I'll have to look
>> at this closer when I get some spare cycles and am actually in the
>> same location as the devices.
>>
>> If someone can do some debug and identify which kernel it regressed (I
>> suspect when we moved to 4.9.x) it would help as at the moment I have
>> limited time to deal with this (It's a personal not $dayjob project).
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Confirm:
>> >>
>> >> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
>> >> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The
>> >> keyboard
>> >> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and
>> >> I
>> >> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
>> >> using..."
>> >>
>> >> Seems exactly the same for me :(
>> >>
>> >> Winfried
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>> >>
>> >> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
>> >> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>> >> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> >> Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson
>> >> <pbrobin...@gmail.com>, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
>> >> Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>> >> Van: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I
>> >> have
>> >> updated (which took around 10 hours.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was
>> >> off,
>> >> as it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time.
>> >> The
>> >> keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked
>> >> up,
>> >> and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
>> >> using.
>> >> (it keeps incrementing, which is annoying and strange in it's own
>> >> right.)
>> >> This is the last part of that log.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It is connected to the network via a wireless dongle. But I didn't have
>> >> issues with that adapter on x86 when I had other network issues with
>> >> the
>> >> built-in adapter.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:
>> >>   [1485989019.9453] manager: NetworkManager state is now
>> >> CONNECTED_SITE
>> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
>> >> [system] Activating via systemd: service
>> >> name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
>> >> unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9'
>> >> (uid=0
>> >> pid=742 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon "
>> &g

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Rafael Leiva-Ochoa]

Any updates on this issue?

 I can't seem to capture the kernel panic.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:12 AM Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
> > keyboard or HDMI display.
>
> I'm suspecting this is some type of thermal issue. I was home very
> briefly and got two devices setup (I have around 6 various RPis) and
> they both seemed to be OK, and the RPi3 wasn't hot to touch but in the
> interim since I left it appears to have locked up so I'll have to look
> at this closer when I get some spare cycles and am actually in the
> same location as the devices.
>
> If someone can do some debug and identify which kernel it regressed (I
> suspect when we moved to 4.9.x) it would help as at the moment I have
> limited time to deal with this (It's a personal not $dayjob project).
>
> Peter
>
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Confirm:
> >>
> >> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
> >> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The keyboard
> >> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and I
> >> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
> using..."
> >>
> >> Seems exactly the same for me :(
> >>
> >> Winfried
> >>
> >>
> >> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
> >>
> >> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
> >> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
> >> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> >> Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson
> >> <pbrobin...@gmail.com>, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
> >> Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
> >> Van: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
> >>
> >> I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I
> have
> >> updated (which took around 10 hours.)
> >>
> >>
> >> I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was
> off,
> >> as it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time.
> The
> >> keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked
> up,
> >> and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was
> using.
> >> (it keeps incrementing, which is annoying and strange in it's own
> right.)
> >> This is the last part of that log.
> >>
> >>
> >> It is connected to the network via a wireless dongle. But I didn't have
> >> issues with that adapter on x86 when I had other network issues with the
> >> built-in adapter.
> >>
> >>
> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:
> >>   [1485989019.9453] manager: NetworkManager state is now
> >> CONNECTED_SITE
> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
> >> [system] Activating via systemd: service
> >> name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
> >> unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9'
> (uid=0
> >> pid=742 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon "
> >> label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")
> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: tmp.mount:
> >> Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit tmp.mount is masked.
> >> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Starting
> >> Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service...
> >> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
> >> alloc_contig_range: [21fdc, 21fe0) PFNs busy
> >> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
> >> alloc_contig_range: [220c0, 220c4) PFNs busy
> >> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
> >> alloc_contig_range: [220c4, 220c8) PFNs busy
> >> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
> >> [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
> >> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]:
> SERVICE_START
> >> pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0
> >> msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd"
> 

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Peter Robinson]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
> keyboard or HDMI display.

I'm suspecting this is some type of thermal issue. I was home very
briefly and got two devices setup (I have around 6 various RPis) and
they both seemed to be OK, and the RPi3 wasn't hot to touch but in the
interim since I left it appears to have locked up so I'll have to look
at this closer when I get some spare cycles and am actually in the
same location as the devices.

If someone can do some debug and identify which kernel it regressed (I
suspect when we moved to 4.9.x) it would help as at the moment I have
limited time to deal with this (It's a personal not $dayjob project).

Peter

> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Confirm:
>>
>> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
>> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The keyboard
>> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and I
>> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was using..."
>>
>> Seems exactly the same for me :(
>>
>> Winfried
>>
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>>
>> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
>> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson
>> <pbrobin...@gmail.com>, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
>> Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>> Van: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
>>
>> I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I have
>> updated (which took around 10 hours.)
>>
>>
>> I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off,
>> as it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The
>> keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up,
>> and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was using.
>> (it keeps incrementing, which is annoying and strange in it's own right.)
>> This is the last part of that log.
>>
>>
>> It is connected to the network via a wireless dongle. But I didn't have
>> issues with that adapter on x86 when I had other network issues with the
>> built-in adapter.
>>
>>
>> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:
>>   [1485989019.9453] manager: NetworkManager state is now
>> CONNECTED_SITE
>> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
>> [system] Activating via systemd: service
>> name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
>> unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9' (uid=0
>> pid=742 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon "
>> label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")
>> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: tmp.mount:
>> Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit tmp.mount is masked.
>> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Starting
>> Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service...
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
>> alloc_contig_range: [21fdc, 21fe0) PFNs busy
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
>> alloc_contig_range: [220c0, 220c4) PFNs busy
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
>> alloc_contig_range: [220c4, 220c8) PFNs busy
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
>> [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]: SERVICE_START
>> pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0
>> msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd"
>> exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Started
>> Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]:
>> req:1 'connectivity-change': new request (5 scripts)
>> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]:
>> req:1 'connectivity-change': start running ordered scripts...
>> Feb 01 17:43:50 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP
>> pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 sub

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Rafael Leiva-Ochoa]

Hi Peter, it locked up again with the 2.5 amp plug. No reaction from the
keyboard or HDMI display.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Confirm:
>
> "...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
> itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The keyboard
> didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, and I
> couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was using..."
>
> Seems exactly the same for me :(
>
> Winfried
>
>
> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>
> *Datum*: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
> *Onderwerp*: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
> *Cc*: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org
> <%22...@lists.fedoraproject.org%22%20%3c...@lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>>
> *Aan*: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net
> <rafael%20leiva-ochoa%20%3csp...@rloteck.net%3e>>, Peter Robinson <
> pbrobin...@gmail.com <peter%20robinson%20%3cpbrobin...@gmail.com%3e>>,
> Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl <winfried%20de%20heiden%20%3c...@dds.nl%3e>
> >
> Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
> *Van*: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com
> <sean%20omalley%20%3comalle...@rocketmail.com%3e>>
>
> I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I have 
> updated (which took around 10 hours.)
>
>
> I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as 
> it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The 
> keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked up, 
> and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it was using. 
> (it keeps incrementing, which is annoying and strange in it's own right.) 
> This is the last part of that log.
>
>
> It is connected to the network via a wireless dongle. But I didn't have 
> issues with that adapter on x86 when I had other network issues with the 
> built-in adapter.
>
>
> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:   
> [1485989019.9453] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_SITE
> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]: [system] 
> Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' 
> unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9' (uid=0 
> pid=742 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
> label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")
> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: tmp.mount: 
> Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit tmp.mount is masked.
> Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Starting Network 
> Manager Script Dispatcher Service...
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel: alloc_contig_range: 
> [21fdc, 21fe0) PFNs busy
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel: alloc_contig_range: 
> [220c0, 220c4) PFNs busy
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel: alloc_contig_range: 
> [220c4, 220c8) PFNs busy
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]: [system] 
> Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]: SERVICE_START 
> pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
> msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd" 
> exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Started Network 
> Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]: req:1 
> 'connectivity-change': new request (5 scripts)
> Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]: req:1 
> 'connectivity-change': start running ordered scripts...
> Feb 01 17:43:50 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 
> uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
> msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd" 
> exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
> Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:   
> [1485989065.1881] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL
> Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]: [system] 
> Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' 
> unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9' (uid=0 
> pid=742 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon &qu

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Winfried de Heiden]

Hi all,

Confirm:

"...came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was off, as it shuts
itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of time. The
keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had open locked
up, and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the router said it
was using..." 

Seems exactly the same for me :(

Winfried

-Oorspronkelijke bericht-

Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:54:25 + (UTC)
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Aan: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>, Peter Robinson , Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
Reply-to: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
Van: Sean Omalley <omalle...@rocketmail.com>
I have a 2.5amp power supply too. It stopped responding twice since I
have updated (which took around 10 hours.) 


I went to dinner and came back, and the monitor (tv in this case) was
off, as it shuts itself off after not getting a signal for x amount of
time. The keyboard didn't respond to any input. The ssh session I had
open locked up, and I couldn't connect to it on the IP address the
router said it was using. (it keeps incrementing, which is annoying and
strange in it's own right.) This is the last part of that log. 


It is connected to the network via a wireless dongle. But I didn't have
issues with that adapter on x86 when I had other network issues with
the built-in adapter. 


Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:
  [1485989019.9453] manager: NetworkManager state is now
CONNECTED_SITE
Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
[system] Activating via systemd: service
name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-
dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9' (uid=0 pid=742
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon "
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")
Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: tmp.mount:
Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit tmp.mount is masked.
Feb 01 17:43:39 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Starting
Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service...
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
alloc_contig_range: [21fdc, 21fe0) PFNs busy
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
alloc_contig_range: [220c0, 220c4) PFNs busy
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net kernel:
alloc_contig_range: [220c4, 220c8) PFNs busy
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
[system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]:
SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=?
terminal=? res=success'
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Started
Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]:
req:1 'connectivity-change': new request (5 scripts)
Feb 01 17:43:40 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2019]:
req:1 'connectivity-change': start running ordered scripts...
Feb 01 17:43:50 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP
pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=?
terminal=? res=success'
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net NetworkManager[742]:
  [1485989065.1881] manager: NetworkManager state is now
CONNECTED_GLOBAL
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
[system] Activating via systemd: service
name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-
dispatcher.service' requested by ':1.9' (uid=0 pid=742
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon "
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: tmp.mount:
Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit tmp.mount is masked.
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Starting
Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service...
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net dbus-daemon[686]:
[system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net audit[1]:
SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=?
terminal=? res=success'
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net nm-dispatcher[2039]:
req:1 'connectivity-change': new request (5 scripts)
Feb 01 17:44:25 unknownc83a35b012e1.attlocal.net systemd[1]: Started
Network Manager Script 

[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Sean Omalley]

y) finished 0anacron




From: Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
To: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>; Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> 
Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 5:04 PM
Subject: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up



 I will try my 2.5 amp power supply tonight.  If I still see the same problems 
I will go ahead and respond back to the same email.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:41 AM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:

Hi all,
>
>Double checked: 2.5A power supply.Winfried
>
> 
>Op 01-02-17 om 13:58 schreef Winfried de Heiden:
>
>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>I don't know by head but it should be enough; it worked for weeks and it is 
>>sold as "the official PI power supply".
>>
>>
>>I'll check tonight to be shure.
>>
>>
>>Winfried
>>
>>
>>-Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>>
>>
>>Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:27:45 +
>>Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>>Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
>>Aan: Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
>>Van: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
>>On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote: 
>>Hi all, Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. 
>>One or
two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen. Looks like a 
kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"  Raspberry
Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of days. 
What is the AMP rating of your power supplies? 
>>Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a bugzilla on
this. Winfried Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa 
<sp...@rloteck.net>: Hi Everyone, I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with 
Fedora release 25 (Twenty Five)
using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the last 2
weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor, and USB
keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a blank
screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
/var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be causing
the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does not
support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks. Any ideas? 
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Rafael Leiva-Ochoa]

 I will try my 2.5 amp power supply tonight.  If I still see the same
problems I will go ahead and respond back to the same email.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:41 AM Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Double checked: 2.5A power supply.
> Winfried
>
> Op 01-02-17 om 13:58 schreef Winfried de Heiden:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't know by head but it should be enough; it worked for weeks and it
> is sold as "the official PI power supply".
>
> I'll check tonight to be shure.
>
> Winfried
>
> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>
> *Datum*: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:27:45 +
> *Onderwerp*: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
> *Cc*: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net
> <rafael%20leiva-ochoa%20%3csp...@rloteck.net%3e>>
> *Aan*: Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl
> <winfried%20de%20heiden%20%3c...@dds.nl%3e>>
> *Van*: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com
> <peter%20robinson%20%3cpbrobin...@gmail.com%3e>>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. One or
> two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen.
>
> Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"  Raspberry
> Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of days.
>
>
>
> What is the AMP rating of your power supplies?
>
>
>
> Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a bugzilla on
> this.
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>  I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25 (Twenty Five)
> using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the last 2
> weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor, and USB
> keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a blank
> screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
> /var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be causing
> the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does not
> support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rafael
>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net> wrote:
> The AMP rating is 2.0 amps for mine. Its been working fine since the first
> release of Fedora 25. I have been noticing that the Pi does go a little hot
> compared to my other Pi's that don't run Fedora. I don't know if that is
> related.

As outlined in the Fedora perquisites [1] as documented by the RPi
Foundation [2] you need a 2.5 Amp PSU for the Pi3. There was quite a
bit of change between  the 4.8 and 4.9 kernel series so it might be
we've enabled extra functionality that's drawing a little extra power
when you do something (eg I add patches that use higher speed SD card
support) and that might have been enough to trip us over the "it
works" on a 2 AMP PSU.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Prerequisites
[2] https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#power

> Thanks,
>
> Rafael
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't know by head but it should be enough; it worked for weeks and it
>> is sold as "the official PI power supply".
>>
>> I'll check tonight to be shure.
>>
>> Winfried
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>>
>> Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:27:45 +
>> Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
>> Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
>> Aan: Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
>> Van: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. One
>> or
>> two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen.
>>
>> Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"
>> Raspberry
>> Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of days.
>>
>>
>> What is the AMP rating of your power supplies?
>>
>>
>> Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a bugzilla
>> on
>> this.
>>
>> Winfried
>>
>>
>>
>> Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa
>> <sp...@rloteck.net>:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>  I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25 (Twenty
>> Five)
>> using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the last
>> 2
>> weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor, and
>> USB
>> keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a
>> blank
>> screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
>> /var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be
>> causing
>> the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does
>> not
>> support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rafael
>>
>>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Rafael Leiva-Ochoa]

The AMP rating is 2.0 amps for mine. Its been working fine since the first
release of Fedora 25. I have been noticing that the Pi does go a little hot
compared to my other Pi's that don't run Fedora. I don't know if that is
related.

Thanks,

Rafael

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I don't know by head but it should be enough; it worked for weeks and it
> is sold as "the official PI power supply".
>
> I'll check tonight to be shure.
>
> Winfried
>
> -Oorspronkelijke bericht-
>
> *Datum*: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:27:45 +
> *Onderwerp*: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
> *Cc*: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net
> <rafael%20leiva-ochoa%20%3csp...@rloteck.net%3e>>
> *Aan*: Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl
> <winfried%20de%20heiden%20%3c...@dds.nl%3e>>
> *Van*: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com
> <peter%20robinson%20%3cpbrobin...@gmail.com%3e>>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. One or
> two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen.
>
> Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"  Raspberry
> Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of days.
>
>
>
> What is the AMP rating of your power supplies?
>
>
>
> Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a bugzilla on
> this.
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>  I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25 (Twenty Five)
> using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the last 2
> weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor, and USB
> keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a blank
> screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
> /var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be causing
> the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does not
> support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rafael
>
>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Winfried de Heiden]

Hi all,

I don't know by head but it should be enough; it worked for weeks and
it is sold as "the official PI power supply".

I'll check tonight to be shure.

Winfried

-Oorspronkelijke bericht-

Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:27:45 +
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up
Cc: arm@lists.fedoraproject.org, Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <sp...@rloteck.net>
Aan: Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl>
Van: Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com>
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden <w...@dds.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops.
> One or
> two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen.
> 
> Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my "
> old"  Raspberry
> Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of
> days.

What is the AMP rating of your power supplies?

> Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a
> bugzilla on
> this.
> 
> Winfried
> 
> 
> 
> Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa <spawn@rloteck
> .net>:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
>  I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25
> (Twenty Five)
> using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the
> last 2
> weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor,
> and USB
> keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a
> blank
> screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
> /var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be
> causing
> the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25
> does not
> support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rafael
> 
> 
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Winfried de Heiden  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. One or
> two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the screen.
>
> Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"  Raspberry
> Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a couple of days.

What is the AMP rating of your power supplies?

> Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a bugzilla on
> this.
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa :
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>  I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25 (Twenty Five)
> using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been noticing for the last 2
> weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking it up to an HDMI monitor, and USB
> keyboard to see if the system generates any message, but I only get a blank
> screen and no reaction from the keyboard. I have looked at the
> /var/log/message, and dmesg, and I don't see anything that could be causing
> the problem. I was thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does not
> support any of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rafael
>
>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry PI 3 locking up

[Winfried de Heiden]

Bugzilla created: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1418183

Winfried

Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 8:52 , schreef Winfried de Heiden :

Hi all,

Same for me, since a couple of days the Rapsbery Pi 3 suddenly stops. 
One or two time I was quick enough to catch a kernel panic on the 
screen.


Looks like a kernel thing to me. I moved the SD-card to my " old"  
Raspberry Pi 2 (two), the same installation is running fine for a 
couple of days.


Screen shot of the kernel panic attached. I think I' ll create a 
bugzilla on this.


Winfried



Op wo, 1 feb 2017 om 1:26 , schreef Rafael Leiva-Ochoa 
:

Hi Everyone,

 I've been running a raspberry pi 3 with Fedora release 25 
(Twenty Five) using kernal 4.9.6-200.fc25.armv7hl, and I have been 
noticing for the last 2 weeks that my Pi locks up. I tried hooking 
it up to an HDMI monitor, and USB keyboard to see if the system 
generates any message, but I only get a blank screen and no reaction 
from the keyboard. I have looked at the /var/log/message, and dmesg, 
and I don't see anything that could be causing the problem. I was 
thinking it could be overheating, but Fedara 25 does not support any 
of the rasbian commands to run heat sensor checks.


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Rafael
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry pi 3: btrfs as root fs and uboot (or grub?)

[Dennis Gilmore]

On martes, 10 de enero de 2017 3:48:21 AM CST Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko
> 
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Current rawhide fedora image is using xfs has a bit higher memory
> > requirements than btrfs so I've started thinking about migration of my
> > current image to new root fs on new card.
Only the server image uses xfs, the minimal and all other images use ext4 for 
/. the server Working Group decided to use xfs everywhere possible boot is 
ext4 as u-boot only supports it from the filesystems we would want to support 
for booting from.

Dennis

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry pi 3: btrfs as root fs and uboot (or grub?)

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Current rawhide fedora image is using xfs has a bit higher memory
> requirements than btrfs so I've started thinking about migration of my
> current image to new root fs on new card.
>
> Looking on partition table on rawhide image served by fedora I see:
>
> Device Boot   Start  End  Sectors  Size Id Type
> /dev/mmcblk0p1 20486143959392   29M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/mmcblk0p2 *  61440  1060863   999424  488M 83 Linux
> /dev/mmcblk0p3  1060864  2060287   999424  488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/mmcblk0p4  2060288 15126527 13066240  6.2G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
>
> Q1: for what is this fat32 first partition?

The raspberry pi firmware

> Q2: is it possible to install uboot files from /boot on btrfs? (on x86 and

No. But there's no u-boot files in boot, they're on the VFAT
partition. I don't believe u-boot supports loading kernel/initrd from
btrfs though.

> grub it is no problem with this)
> Q3: seems someone done porting of the grub to arm so why there is n grub2
> package in fedora?

Because there's a lot of usecases that doesn't work with it. Some of
it histotical, but basically it comes down to someone to spend the
time to do all the work and QA to move over to it. Basically if i'ts
not broken why fix it...
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry pi 3: btrfs as root fs and uboot (or grub?)

[Tom Callaway]

The pi firmware needs to be read off a fat partition:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/sdxc_formatting.md

On Dec 13, 2016 7:55 AM, "Tomasz Kłoczko"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Current rawhide fedora image is using xfs has a bit higher memory
> requirements than btrfs so I've started thinking about migration of my
> current image to new root fs on new card.
>
> Looking on partition table on rawhide image served by fedora I see:
>
> Device Boot   Start  End  Sectors  Size Id Type
> /dev/mmcblk0p1 20486143959392   29M  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/mmcblk0p2 *  61440  1060863   999424  488M 83 Linux
> /dev/mmcblk0p3  1060864  2060287   999424  488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/mmcblk0p4  2060288 15126527 13066240  6.2G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
>
> Q1: for what is this fat32 first partition?
> Q2: is it possible to install uboot files from /boot on btrfs? (on x86 and
> grub it is no problem with this)
> Q3: seems someone done porting of the grub to arm so why there is n grub2
> package in fedora?
>
> kloczek
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On 3/1/16, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>
>> If they're aiming it at IoT products, which they seem to be doing:
>> 1) dedicated bandwidth to BT/WiFI
>> 2) more stable
>> 3) cheaper when on board
>> 4) generally less problematic
>>
>>> Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB
>>> 3.0.
>>
>> Again of no use for the target market, both USB-3 and SATA are
>> expensive from the $ to license the IP and the cost of board
>> components
>
> Cypress disagrees wrt usefulness of a USB 3.0 port for IoT

I don't disagree it's not useful, but this discussion is _NOT_ useful
because _WE_ can't change the HW!

> Well, the TI USB 3.0 driver IC costs between $2 and $4 a piece

$2-4 is 10% of the cost of a Raspberry Pi 3, please apply some
context, again not useful in this thread.

> " not to mention the power use, besides ..."
> I get your point wrt maximum power supply over the usb 33.0 bus, BUT
> USB 3.0 actually features BETTER power saving than 2.0...

Actually that is a "it depends" because a GigE PHYS uses an order of
magnitude more power than a 100Mb PHY. It's not just about the bus but
what you plug into it. That is a big problem even with the RPi2 and
one of the reasons they upped the PSU requirements in the RPi3.

> Oh well... my point only was to stick to the "KISS PRINCIPLE". Deliver

Your point is still pointless because it's nothing that can be changed
by people on this list.

> It seems I'll have to shell out the extra bucks needed for one of these 
> puppies
> while waiting for the elusive RasPi 4 or RasPi5 w USB 3.0...

Buy a device that best fits your needs, if that's usb-3 then don't buy
a RPi device.

> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G143452239825
>
> Wonder if Fedora ARM would boot on that at all...

I've had some reports it works, we don't currently have a u-boot but
there is upstream Device Tree support for it enabled in out kernel.
Further reports are welcome.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/1/16, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> If they're aiming it at IoT products, which they seem to be doing:
> 1) dedicated bandwidth to BT/WiFI
> 2) more stable
> 3) cheaper when on board
> 4) generally less problematic
>
>> Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB
>> 3.0.
>
> Again of no use for the target market, both USB-3 and SATA are
> expensive from the $ to license the IP and the cost of board
> components

Cypress disagrees wrt usefulness of a USB 3.0 port for IoT
http://www.cypress.com/products/ez-usb-fx3-superspeed-usb-30-peripheral-controller

"USB 3.0 provides a 5 Gbps link that supports uncompressed HD video
transfer and enables applications such as DSC, DVC, webcams, security
cameras, machine vision, medical imaging, and surveillance equipment"

Well, the TI USB 3.0 driver IC costs between $2 and $4 a piece
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?site=us=en=SN65LVPE502=1

" not to mention the power use, besides ..."
I get your point wrt maximum power supply over the usb 33.0 bus, BUT
USB 3.0 actually features BETTER power saving than 2.0...

http://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2013/feb/implementing-usb-30-in-mcu-and-microprocessorbased-systems

"The new protocol also means USB 3.0 devices do not have to remain
powered at all times to answer the host polling. In a link with a USB
3.0 host and peripherals, the peripherals can enter and remain in
low-power states for extended periods"

Oh well... my point only was to stick to the "KISS PRINCIPLE". Deliver
a cheap simple board and let users add functionality to it externally
over USB 3.0 like lego blocks, without complicating its design w
features that the user might not need (I surely couldn't care less
about Bluetooth).

It seems I'll have to shell out the extra bucks needed for one of these puppies
while waiting for the elusive RasPi 4 or RasPi5 w USB 3.0...

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G143452239825

Wonder if Fedora ARM would boot on that at all...
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

>> the wifi firmware (looks similar issues that people have with Apple
>> Mac wifi) isn't currently in linux-firmware so it's not (as far as
>> I'm aware) currently able to be distributed as part of Fedora.
>
> I'm not going to get into a discussion, I know why you don't like the
> Broadcom license.

It's actually got nothing to do with me, we ship what goes into the
upstream linux-firmware repository. There's generally agreed legal
requirements for re-distribution of firmwares that go into that
upstream repository and if they don't conform to that requirement they
can't be redistributed by linux distros. This is nothing to do with
me, Fedora (or Red Hat legal) liking or disliking the license, I can
only presume, and may well be wrong here, that's it's the Linux
Foundation legal team that deal with those, either way they're not
there so it's a problem.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Clive Messer]

On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 12:28 +, Peter Robinson wrote:

> the wifi firmware (looks similar issues that people have with Apple
> Mac wifi) isn't currently in linux-firmware so it's not (as far as
> I'm aware) currently able to be distributed as part of Fedora.

I'm not going to get into a discussion, I know why you don't like the
Broadcom license.

Anyone who does want the wifi firmware/nvram.txt to use with the
brcmfmac driver, I've packaged it

http://www.squeezecommunity.org/repo/fedora/23/SRPMS/brcm43430-firmware
-1.0-3.fc23.src.rpm

http://www.squeezecommunity.org/repo/fedora/23/armhfp/brcm43430-firmwar
e-1.0-3.fc23.noarch.rpm

Regards

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[poma]

On 01.03.2016 10:22, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Built-in WiFi, Bluetooth, 64 bit processor. Is this finally the Raspberry
> Pi
> that Fedora will run unmodified on? Sure hope so...
>>> At some point, I have to wonder if Raspberry Pi is just trolling us
>>> with each hardware release.
>>
>> I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
>> (specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
>> couple of dollars. Plus, having those EXTERNALLY means you can update
>> to newer specs without switching mainboard.
> 
> If they're aiming it at IoT products, which they seem to be doing:
> 1) dedicated bandwidth to BT/WiFI
> 2) more stable
> 3) cheaper when on board
> 4) generally less problematic
> 
>> Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB 3.0.
>> Then one can hook as many external devices as needed. Want to turn the
>> Raspi4 into a gigabit router? just hang a pair of USB 3.0->GigE
>> adapters and youre done.
> 
> Again of no use for the target market, both USB-3 and SATA are
> expensive from the $ to license the IP and the cost of board
> components not to mention the power use, besides there's other issues
> with the bcm823x design where the bandwidth is about as strong as an
> asthmatic ant with heavy shopping. If SATA/usb3/GigE networking is
> what you want there's dozens of ARM SBCs that are an order of
> magnitude better than a RPi. Basically you get what you pay for


Technically -and- financially wise,
what is most complete/compatible/friendly hardware/software arm based 
product/solution
towards Fedora/GPL?

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Clive Messer]

On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 09:34 +, Peter Robinson wrote:

> And for the wifi/BT chip if you google BCM43438 you'll see it's SDIO
> and I suspect if you look at all the BCM283x SoCs there's a spare
> MMC/SDIO interface hanging around somewhere.

Yes, the wifi is SDIO attached and a UART, (ALT3/UART0 IIRC), to the
BT.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

>> I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
>> (specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
>> couple of dollars. Plus, having those EXTERNALLY means you can update
>> to newer specs without switching mainboard.
>
> I fully understand it.  Devices with external stuff that can (either
> accidentally or not) be removed or exchanged by users are in all kinds
> of situations useless, as they dramatically decrease the robustness
> of the appliances and at the same time increase the support costs.
>
> This is not about developers that manage their own hardware, but about
> real-life appliances made with a Pi.  So for me it's the first Pi that
> can really be used for some appliances, due to the built-in wifi.
>
> Still wondering why they stick to 100 Mbps Ethernet, as I think 1 Gbps
> is almost the same price these days.

Because it's usb2 attached, via a usb hub. The BCM283x SoCs have a
single usb2 controller for all the USB-A ports on the device (most
SBCs have a controller per port) and that controller is buggy so
couldn't even sustain the theoretical 480Mbps of usb2, which is shared
with whatever else is attached to the hub. So basically it would only
be a waste of money for increased cost so why bother.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Jos Vos]

On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 05:03:39AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:

> I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
> (specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
> couple of dollars. Plus, having those EXTERNALLY means you can update
> to newer specs without switching mainboard.

I fully understand it.  Devices with external stuff that can (either
accidentally or not) be removed or exchanged by users are in all kinds
of situations useless, as they dramatically decrease the robustness
of the appliances and at the same time increase the support costs.

This is not about developers that manage their own hardware, but about
real-life appliances made with a Pi.  So for me it's the first Pi that
can really be used for some appliances, due to the built-in wifi.

Still wondering why they stick to 100 Mbps Ethernet, as I think 1 Gbps
is almost the same price these days.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz
 wrote:
> W dniu 01.03.2016 o 09:03, Fernando Cassia pisze:
>
>> I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
>> (specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
>> couple of dollars.
>
>
>> Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB
>> 3.0.
>
>
> They should add USB ports first. Note that all they have is ONE on-the-go
> usb controller. Anything you connect to USB share one port bandwidth.

HAHA, that costs in terms of IP, space on the silicon and board routing ;-)

> Note that BCM8236 (r/pi 2) was same as BCM8235 just newer ARM core was used.
> I would not be surprised to see BCM8237 to be repeat + some SPI bus for that
> wifi/bt chip.

To quote from the press release "For Raspberry Pi 3, Broadcom have
supported us with a new SoC, BCM2837. This retains the same basic
architecture as its predecessors BCM2835 and BCM2836, so all those
projects and tutorials which rely on the precise details of the
Raspberry Pi hardware will continue to work" ... on the plus side (and
I'm not sure this is) it should make the kernel patches to support it
tiny.

And for the wifi/BT chip if you google BCM43438 you'll see it's SDIO
and I suspect if you look at all the BCM283x SoCs there's a spare
MMC/SDIO interface hanging around somewhere.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

W dniu 01.03.2016 o 09:03, Fernando Cassia pisze:


I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
(specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
couple of dollars.



Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB 3.0.


They should add USB ports first. Note that all they have is ONE 
on-the-go usb controller. Anything you connect to USB share one port 
bandwidth.


Note that BCM8236 (r/pi 2) was same as BCM8235 just newer ARM core was 
used. I would not be surprised to see BCM8237 to be repeat + some SPI 
bus for that wifi/bt chip.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Fernando Cassia]

On 2/29/16, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> On 29 February 2016 at 05:28, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
>>> Built-in WiFi, Bluetooth, 64 bit processor. Is this finally the Raspberry
>>> Pi
>>> that Fedora will run unmodified on? Sure hope so...
> At some point, I have to wonder if Raspberry Pi is just trolling us
> with each hardware release.

I just dont understand why they insist on having everything onboard
(specially wireless) when usb dongles for wifi and BT can be had for a
couple of dollars. Plus, having those EXTERNALLY means you can update
to newer specs without switching mainboard.

Much more interesting, IMHO would be the addition of a SATA port AND USB 3.0.
Then one can hook as many external devices as needed. Want to turn the
Raspi4 into a gigabit router? just hang a pair of USB 3.0->GigE
adapters and youre done.

FC
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Jeffrey Ollie]

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Zoltan Hoppar  wrote:

>
> I just want to mention that Olimex do completely FOSS solutions, and
> trying to keep it so. Even more I don't get it why we fighting with
> RSPi, and try to find like this:
>

Not that there's anything wrong with Olimex's products, but they certainly
do not have the marketing and community that the Raspberry Pi has.  If
you're relatively inexperienced with electronics or Linux, it's worth a lot
to have a community like the Raspberry Pi has for solutions and help.  If
you live in even a moderately sized metropolitan area there's probably a
Linux user group or hackerspace nearby that you can turn to for in-person
help, encouragement, and maybe even training.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Jeffrey Ollie]

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Jared K. Smith 
wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
>
>> 64 bit processor.
>
>
>
> From what I hear, they're still shipping it with 32-bit version of Noobs,
> and running it in 32-bit compatibility mode.  It sounds like they're just
> interested in the speed bump in the newer SoC, and not in the 64-bit
> capabilities.
>

That's what they said in their announcement.  Given that the Pi3 has 1Gb of
RAM the additional memory overhead of 64 bit might not be worth it.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Zoltan Hoppar]

Hi,

I just want to mention that Olimex do completely FOSS solutions, and
trying to keep it so. Even more I don't get it why we fighting with
RSPi, and try to find like this:

https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY%20Laptop/
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/a64-olinuxino-64-bit-arm-oshw-designed-completely-with-kicad-is-live/
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/h3-olinuxino-nano-update-it-work-with-8gb-ddr3l-too-so-this-small-board-can-have-1gb-ram-also/

...and there is a chance to get more contributors:
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/01/21/tuxcon-2016-free-open-source-software-and-hardware-event-in-plovdiv-is-9-10-of-july/

With that project, as they release every bits of the design, possibly
we can win-win for each side more I think...

Zoltan

2016-02-29 19:13 GMT+01:00 Jared K. Smith :
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
>>
>> 64 bit processor.
>
>
>
> From what I hear, they're still shipping it with 32-bit version of Noobs,
> and running it in 32-bit compatibility mode.  It sounds like they're just
> interested in the speed bump in the newer SoC, and not in the 64-bit
> capabilities.
>
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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Jared K. Smith]

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:

> 64 bit processor.



>From what I hear, they're still shipping it with 32-bit version of Noobs,
and running it in 32-bit compatibility mode.  It sounds like they're just
interested in the speed bump in the newer SoC, and not in the 64-bit
capabilities.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Jeffrey Ollie]

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Stephen John Smoogen 
wrote:

>
> At some point, I have to wonder if Raspberry Pi is just trolling us
> with each hardware release.
>

Yeah, it's really annoying that they keep using hardware bits that make it
hard for
distributions like Fedora that have strict rules about non-free software.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 29 February 2016 at 05:28, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
>> Built-in WiFi, Bluetooth, 64 bit processor. Is this finally the Raspberry Pi
>> that Fedora will run unmodified on? Sure hope so...
>
> No, not currently, and certainly won't be in Fedora 24 unless someone
> contributes a lot of stuff very quickly.
>
> Why? There's no source (yet) for the new SoC, it's not upstream and
> won't be until at least 4.7 (it has to be queued for inclusion by rc4
> of the previous release to land in the next release) it supports a
> boot process that is nothing like what we currently support for
> aarch64 so it would need significant work for aarch64 in Fedora, and
> the wifi firmware (looks similar issues that people have with Apple
> Mac wifi) isn't currently in linux-firmware so it's not (as far as I'm
> aware) currently able to be distributed as part of Fedora.


At some point, I have to wonder if Raspberry Pi is just trolling us
with each hardware release.


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[fedora-arm] Re: Raspberry Pi 3

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:
> Built-in WiFi, Bluetooth, 64 bit processor. Is this finally the Raspberry Pi
> that Fedora will run unmodified on? Sure hope so...

No, not currently, and certainly won't be in Fedora 24 unless someone
contributes a lot of stuff very quickly.

Why? There's no source (yet) for the new SoC, it's not upstream and
won't be until at least 4.7 (it has to be queued for inclusion by rc4
of the previous release to land in the next release) it supports a
boot process that is nothing like what we currently support for
aarch64 so it would need significant work for aarch64 in Fedora, and
the wifi firmware (looks similar issues that people have with Apple
Mac wifi) isn't currently in linux-firmware so it's not (as far as I'm
aware) currently able to be distributed as part of Fedora.
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