Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread Yann Le Du
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Robin Hanson wrote: > Yann Le Du wrote: > > > I agree that many people highly value their ability to express their > > > religion. But how much they value a constitutional guarantee to > > > such expression depends on what they think the chances are that the > > > government

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread Yann Le Du
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, fabio guillermo rojas wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yann Le Du wrote: > > Doesn't the _existence_ of the rule participate in changing the way the > > people "think the chances are that the government would actually try to > > stop them" ? I think there's a retroaction pro

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yann Le Du wrote: > Doesn't the _existence_ of the rule participate in changing the way the > people "think the chances are that the government would actually try to > stop them" ? I think there's a retroaction process there. You might think so, but for the longest time in A

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread Robin Hanson
Yann Le Du wrote: > > I agree that many people highly value their ability to express their > > religion. But how much they value a constitutional guarantee to > > such expression depends on what they think the chances are that the > > government would actually try to stop them. > >... can't a con

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread Yann Le Du
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Robin Hanson wrote: > Fabio Rojas wrote: > > > But I have often wondered if we could measure willingness to pay > > > for various freedoms, perhaps by just directly asking people. > > > >... There are two kinds of free speech whose price we can measure: > >freedom of one's own

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Robin Hanson wrote: > >The evidence is that a lot of people are willing to pay quite > >a bit for their own free speech. Witness the fact that many > >are willing to die for the right to express their religion. > > I agree that many people highly value their ability to expre

Re: The ACLU and The Price of Free Speech

2000-12-05 Thread Robin Hanson
Fabio Rojas wrote: > > But I have often wondered if we could measure willingness to pay > > for various freedoms, perhaps by just directly asking people. > >... There are two kinds of free speech whose price we can measure: >freedom of one's own speech (I should be allowed to say what I want) >and