Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-27 Thread Mark Steckbeck
You also forgot to add that three weeks ago he was proposing that Argentina depreciate their currency. I wouldn't label that the brightest of ideas by a "leading" economist either given the situation. Mark Steckbeck On 11/26/01 8:50 PM, "Peter Boettke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Caplan) pe

Re: Efficiency of Academia (was: Austrians and markets)

2001-11-27 Thread Technotranscendence
On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:13 PM Peter J. Boettke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To be clear --- I am not whinning about the place of Austrians in the > world of ideas --- some of it is because of "inefficiencies" other > explanations are due to the incompentence of the leading exponents of > the

Re: Efficiency of Academia (was: Austrians and markets)

2001-11-27 Thread pboettke
Robin, I am shocked that you would claim that academics is an unregulated industry ... shocked. If I told that there was an organization that had the following characteristics what you say: 1. The owners do not manage the system 2. The workers make most of the managerial decisions 3. Cons

Efficiency of Academia (was: Austrians and markets)

2001-11-27 Thread Robin Hanson
An all too common view is that most markets work well, and government should leave them mostly alone, except the social area I most care about needs special attention and subsidies to make sure my side prospers. I know people who act this way about health, art, privacy, sex, and much more. This s

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Sorry, double negatives confuse me. I mean of course that the history of the twentieth century (Marxist-Leinism, communism, fascism etc.) is an argument against the efficiency of the market in social science. alex Alex Tabarrok wrote: > Hello? If the history of the twentieth century is not an

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
Don't you think there is a difference between efficiency in the intellectual arena and truth? I think that intellectual institutions are fairly good at allocating resources to efficiently produce "normal science" - ie, science that refines and explores a given view of the world. Truth may requir

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Peter Boettke
Yes, I was refering to the Boulding article you mention -- perhaps we read it differently. Second, I think there are several reasons why Austrians have difficulities --- some self-induced, others as a consequence of other issues. Public choice scholars should realize that for a long period of ti

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Peter Boettke
What do you mean by the history of the 20th century being an argument for efficiency? Keynesianism --- 1930-1980 --- pretty good run. Market socialism --- 1936-1985 --- pretty good run. Market failure theory, with a benevolent despot --- 1920s -- 1960s --- pretty good run. I am confused. Do yo

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Hello? If the history of the twentieth century is not an undeniable argument against the hypothesis that the "market" for social science is not efficient then what is? Alex -- Dr. Alexander Tabarrok Vice President and Director of Research The Independent Institute 100 Swan Way Oakland, CA, 9462

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread John-charles Bradbury
ctual Resources"? JC - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Austrians and markets > The institutions of property, prices and profit and loss are at best > approximated in science --

RE: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Mark Steckbeck
Actually, I am not making (or trying to make) an argument, I am simply interested in responses from this list given the range of ideologies. I agree wholly with previous statements made on this list that Austrian economics has made large contributions to economics. My question deals more with on

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread pboettke
The institutions of property, prices and profit and loss are at best approximated in science --- we have at best attenuated property rights, etc. The coin of the realm in science is pretige and reputation. It is not necessarily a cash nexus, though of course some drug research etc. does have

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread John-charles Bradbury
PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Peter Boettke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Austrians and markets > Mark, > > I am surprised you would be making this argument ... do you believe that the > &quo

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-26 Thread Peter Boettke
Mark, I am surprised you would be making this argument ... do you believe that the "market" for legislation is efficient because it exists? Whatever is, isn't necessarily efficient. The market for ideas in economics is a distorted market. Fads and fashions come and go all the time. Science is

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-18 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Mark Steckbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the recent post by Dan Klein > pertaining to changing the name of the school (let's put the old wine in new > wineskins) > Mark Steckbeck I think your interpretation of Dan Klein's proposal is not what he intended. As I understand it, the proposal

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-18 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
I'll rephrase what Sherwin Rosen said in some speeches and articles before his death. He argued that Austrian economics includes a number of ideas, which have varying degrees of acceptance in the market place of ideas. The subjective theory of value is accepted by most economists as are other Aus

Re: Austrians and markets

2001-11-18 Thread John Perich
>From: Mark Steckbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Austrians and markets >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:32:32 -0500 > >A colleague who had run and managed businesses in a previous life recently >asked me to

Austrians and markets

2001-11-18 Thread Mark Steckbeck
A colleague who had run and managed businesses in a previous life recently asked me to name a management strategy based on Austrian theory. There are numerous possible answers such as spontaneous order and all but, after considering that another colleague who happens to be both a musician and an a

Austrians and markets

2001-11-18 Thread Mark Steckbeck
BTW - my comment about spontaneous order refers to a methodological precept of Austrian theory, not of a theory itself. Mark Steckbeck Hillsdale College