--- Kevin Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"One neocon recently argued that anyone who does not
support Isreael is, by definition, an antisemite,
because Israel is the Jewish national homeland."
Which is ironic in that Arabs are Semitic as well.
Picking sides in the conflict is not anti- or
pro
And free market anarchists like Tucker, who also identified themselves as
"libertarian socialists," saw the state as the central, defining
characteristic of capitalist exploitation (and all other forms of
exploitation). Exploitation, defined as the use of force to enable one
person to live of
>From: "Alex Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>I haven't read the Pipes book. He's a neoconservative, isn't he?
>I don't know what the term "neoconservative" means, nor do I understand
>why
>that particular label is relevant to this discussion.
Neoconservatism, generally speaking, is a sort of
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I'm not sure that anyone knows what it means or rather, that there's any
>common agreement on what it means. It seems to have started out referring
>to
>a group of Sixties liberals in America who decided that Big Government
>wasn't
>an effective way of pursuing the g
>From: "Alex Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > As for socialism, its defining characteristic is not necessarily the
>absence
> >of private property rights. Tucker simply defined socialism by two
> >criteria: the beliefs that 1) all value was created by labor; and 2)
>that
> >labor should get 10
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Irving Kristol defined a neo-conservative
> as a liberal who had been mugged.
I guess that makes me a classical neoconservative (as of October 24).
--
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/
>I don't know what the term "neoconservative" means
This one is easy. Irving Kristol defined a neo-conservative as a liberal who had been
mugged.
Bill Sjostrom
In a message dated 8/12/02 8:49:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I haven't read Tucker, but I've always thought that Von Mises is correct
when he says that the essential mark of socialism is that "one will alone,
acts, irrespective of whose will it is" (Human Action, p 695.) To me, this
"
In a message dated 8/12/02 8:48:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
I don't know what the term "neoconservative" means, nor do I understand why
that particular label is relevant to this discussion. >>
I'm not sure that anyone knows what it means or rather, that there's any
common agreement
Kevin Carson wrote:
> As for socialism, its defining characteristic is not necessarily the
absence
>of private property rights. Tucker simply defined socialism by two
>criteria: the beliefs that 1) all value was created by labor; and 2) that
>labor should get 100% of its product. In his view,
Kevin Carson wrote:
>>I haven't read the Pipes book. He's a neoconservative, isn't he?
I don't know what the term "neoconservative" means, nor do I understand why
that particular label is relevant to this discussion.
>I've read Bethell's book in parts, and skimmed through most of it. It
>st
Hummbut I still wonder if North was rights. Maybe we are not sharing
mental models...:-)
- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: North on ideology -- Free
>From: "Alex Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Are you (and North?) saying that socialism (whose defining feature is the
>absence of private property rights) has been the natural state of
>affairs,
>and that private property rights are unnatural?
>
>If so, you might be interested to know that is
Excellent point. For example, the commons which existed under the manorial
system had at least as much claim to be "private" property as a joint-stock
corporation.
And any theory of private property should take into account that the Lockean
system (with absentee ownership, landlordism, etc.)
hin the social
body.
>From: Grey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: North on ideology -- Free Markets, & Marketeers -- tunneling
>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:22:22 +0200
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