Re: North on ideology

2002-08-16 Thread john hull
--- Kevin Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One neocon recently argued that anyone who does not support Isreael is, by definition, an antisemite, because Israel is the Jewish national homeland. Which is ironic in that Arabs are Semitic as well. Picking sides in the conflict is not anti- or

Re: North on ideology

2002-08-15 Thread Kevin Carson
And free market anarchists like Tucker, who also identified themselves as libertarian socialists, saw the state as the central, defining characteristic of capitalist exploitation (and all other forms of exploitation). Exploitation, defined as the use of force to enable one person to live off

Re: North on ideology

2002-08-13 Thread sjostrom
I don't know what the term neoconservative means This one is easy. Irving Kristol defined a neo-conservative as a liberal who had been mugged. Bill Sjostrom

RE: North on ideology -- Free Markets, Marketeers -- tunneling

2002-08-12 Thread Kevin Carson
] Subject: RE: North on ideology -- Free Markets, Marketeers -- tunneling Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:22:22 +0200 quoth Tom Grey: . . . For instance, the need for government to prevent tunneling of newly privatized companies by the managers. . . . Define please? It's basically asset stripping

Re: North on ideology -- Free Markets, Marketeers -- tunneling

2002-08-12 Thread Claudio Shikida
Hummbut I still wonder if North was rights. Maybe we are not sharing mental models...:-) - Original Message - From: Kevin Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: RE: North on ideology -- Free Markets, Marketeers -- tunneling

RE: North on ideology

2002-08-12 Thread Alex Robson
Kevin Carson wrote: I haven't read the Pipes book. He's a neoconservative, isn't he? I don't know what the term neoconservative means, nor do I understand why that particular label is relevant to this discussion. I've read Bethell's book in parts, and skimmed through most of it. It strikes

RE: North on ideology

2002-08-12 Thread Alex Robson
Kevin Carson wrote: As for socialism, its defining characteristic is not necessarily the absence of private property rights. Tucker simply defined socialism by two criteria: the beliefs that 1) all value was created by labor; and 2) that labor should get 100% of its product. In his view,

Re: North on ideology

2002-08-12 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 8/12/02 8:48:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know what the term neoconservative means, nor do I understand why that particular label is relevant to this discussion. I'm not sure that anyone knows what it means or rather, that there's any common agreement on

Re: North on ideology

2002-08-12 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 8/12/02 8:49:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't read Tucker, but I've always thought that Von Mises is correct when he says that the essential mark of socialism is that one will alone, acts, irrespective of whose will it is (Human Action, p 695.) To me, this