Re: Marx vs. Hayek - let Amazon decide!!

2000-09-21 Thread NYCEconomist


F. Guillermo wrote:

Here some cute numbers

Title Amazon.com sales Rank  Approx Price

The Communist Manifesto   3,955  $5
The Road to Serfdom   866$8
Wealth of Nations 1,782  $9
Essential Works of Lenin  40,222 $10  
Monetary History of   51,607 $38
the United States
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I decided to venture over to Amazon.com to feed my addiction to the smell of new 
paperbacks and bubblewrap (a rational act in my Stiglerian world) and to review the 
cross-selling information accumulated by those nosy Washingtonians at Amazon.com for 
each of the acclaimed works mentioned above.  I chose to ignore my natural UofC 
compulsion to look for a correlation between price and aggregate sales, instead 
choosing to focus on that "People who ordered this book also ordered the following 
books" section of the website.  What I confirmed was that people generally buy Marx, 
Smith, and Lenin in tandem . . .lest their bookshelves lean too far to one side or the 
other.  Hayek readers tend to read other Hayek works and other Austrian School dribble 
("dribble" meant in its most endearing form) and I guess the Friedman/Schwartz work is 
the paper weight of choice for those of us who as children were indoctrinated by the 
Free To Choose video series and simply can't get enough MV=PQ.

I have all these works in my mammoth home library and that library was built in a very 
price-insensitive addictive state of mind.  I must truly be a sick puppie.

New York, NY



Re: AIDS/POLIO-Not Much Econ

2000-09-21 Thread Robin Hanson

Alexander Tabarrok wrote:
...  Furthermore as Robin pointed out
there was "a claimed strong correlation between where CHAT was given and
the earliest HIV cases. But this correlation is only described via some
maps.  This cries out for a more formal statistical analysis..."
According to the Economist (Sept. 16, 2000) a "closer analysis" (don't
know if this is the same as Robin's formal analysis) suggests that the
correlation is spurious.

Yes, I saw that and was curious to know whether the analysis critical
is any better than Hooper's analysis.  The article did grant that there
remains the strange puzzle of the coincidence in timing of the various
strands of AIDS all being transmitted from primates to humans within a
close period, which I suppose that Hooper will emphasize when backed
into a corner.  The article suggests theories of population increases
or the introduction of cheap syringes, both of which might explain why
infection didn't happen earlier.  But I'm not sure they can explain why
we haven't seen more such transmissions since then.

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Economist Olympics?

2000-09-21 Thread Chris Rasch

Does anyone know if anyone has held an "economist Olympics?"  via one of these
games (e.g. Sim City)?  It seems like it might be a fun tool for evaluating
policy proposals.  For example, suppose two economists disagreed about the
effects of a given policy proposal.   To resolve the issue, they have their
students play a series of simulations (Ultima, Sim City), some of which
implement the proposal in the meta rules of the game, some of which do not.  To
give it some teeth (a la Robin Hanson's idea futures proposal), prior to the
games,  each economist must bet on their predicted outcome.


Can such games model reality well enough to give interesting results?
Would economists agree on the meta-rules enough to agree to participate?




Re: reading recommendation

2000-09-21 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Let me second Bill's point.  It's because decision heuristics are
usually so useful that  we can be lulled into following them when doing
so is downright irrational!

Alex
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Re: AIDS/POLIO-Not Much Econ

2000-09-21 Thread William Dickens

 The article did grant that there
remains the strange puzzle of the coincidence in timing of the various
strands of AIDS all being transmitted from primates to humans within a
close period, which I suppose that Hooper will emphasize when backed
into a corner.  The article suggests theories of population increases
or the introduction of cheap syringes, both of which might explain why
infection didn't happen earlier.  

I'm probably way in over my head here, but I thought that there was still a lot of 
controversy over exactly when and where AIDS first emerged in the human population. I 
seem to remember hearing it claimed that there were confirmed cases in humans before 
the polio vaccination campaign. I thought I've also heard it claimed that the wave of 
reports around the time of the vaccine could be explained by a reporting anomaly -- 
that there was a buzz in the medical community that caused people to recognize what 
they were seeing as a single disease whereas before that time the pattern of symptoms 
might not have been seen as a unique disease.  -- Bill Dickens


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Re: reading recommendation

2000-09-21 Thread NYCEconomist


Regarding the exchange between W. Dickens and B. Caplan over decision heuristics:
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I encourage you to browse, if you haven't, the following:

FAMA, EUGENE F., "Market Efficiency, Long-term Returns, and Behavioral Finance," The 
Journal of Financial Economics, 49 (1998).

I keep a copy of the article at home and enjoy  revisiting it from time to time . . 
.just as I enjoy watching a favorite comedy over and over again on television. In this 
article, which grew out of Fama's Hyde Park on-campus philosophical tussles with 
Richard Thaler and Company, we reach a very interesting conclusion.  In short it goes 
something like this:

[Yes, there are behavioral anomalies within investment markets.  In fact, they often 
appear quite systematic and predictable. Furthermore, they are tenacious little 
"buggars" (that's my paraphrase). However, they'll cancel each other out in an 
efficient market.]

Yes, that was the final answer after 40+ pages of statistical analysis and careful 
consideration: They'll cancel each other out.  

One morning, in the not-too-distant future, the folks in Stockholm will call Eugene in 
the wee hours to inform him that he'll be splitting a $1 million check with Kenneth 
French.  I will smile over my morning coffee when I hear the news and applaud an 
incredible body of work and lifetime of academic contribution. They'll do so (in my 
opinion) in spite of that 1998 article. 

New York, NY



Adobe and pdf files

2000-09-21 Thread Gizmoleon

I just read the series of correspondence considering the Xerox machine and 
the usage of the term "Xerox" to refer to photocopying. Now the problem I 
have does not have to do with the term but with the use of advertising by 
providing a free product.  Adobe acrobat and its free reader for pdf files 
was the first thing that came to mind.  Is it really cost effective for Adobe 
to provide a free pdf reader when they could possibly sell it on the open 
market.  I know they sell other products related to pdf files, but is the 
advertising of the free reader really encouraging people to take advantage of 
their other products or is it causing people to abuse the reader and its 
benefits.   Seon



Re: AIDS/POLIO-Not Much Econ

2000-09-21 Thread Robin Hanson

William T. Dickens wrote:
 The article did grant that there
 remains the strange puzzle of the coincidence in timing of the various
 strands of AIDS all being transmitted from primates to humans within a
 close period, which I suppose that Hooper will emphasize when backed
 into a corner.  The article suggests theories of population increases
 or the introduction of cheap syringes, both of which might explain why
 infection didn't happen earlier.

I'm probably way in over my head here, but I thought that there was still 
a lot of controversy over exactly when and where AIDS first emerged in the 
human population. I seem to remember hearing it claimed that there were 
confirmed cases in humans before the polio vaccination campaign. I thought 
I've also heard it claimed that the wave of reports around the time of the 
vaccine could be explained by a reporting anomaly -- that there was a buzz 
in the medical community that caused people to recognize what they were 
seeing as a single disease whereas before that time the pattern of 
symptoms might not have been seen as a unique disease.  -- Bill

I'm admittedly in over my head as well, but it seems clear that there are 
several
distinct strands of AIDS, which all seem to have been in humans since near the
start of the epidemic.  And since it is unlikely that a single primate or human
was infected with more than one of these strands, there have to have been
multiple transmission events from primates to humans.  The issue isn't about
reports of when people said they saw the disease, but about what we can now 
infer
about who had what when.


Robin Hanson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://hanson.gmu.edu
Asst. Prof. Economics, George Mason University
MSN 1D3, Carow Hall, Fairfax VA 22030-
703-993-2326  FAX: 703-993-2323



Re: reading recommendation

2000-09-21 Thread William Dickens

Sure, some important real world applications exist.  But why is that
interesting?  I would think that the interesting question is: what's the
*expected value* of the loss, averaging over situations of all
importance levels?

So would you argue that the interesting question about government policies is whether 
averaging over all of them net welfare effects are positive? Wouldn't you want to know 
something about particular policies with an eye towards identifying which ones are 
better or worse. Even if you thought that on average they were bad you probably 
couldn't convince most people that they shouldn't be considered on a case by case 
basis.  

Similarly, if you can identify even one situation in which judgement can be shown to 
fail and design an intervention to minimize the cost of that failure isn't that 
interesting?  -- Bill Dickens


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RE: Adobe and pdf files

2000-09-21 Thread Erik Burns

wait a second: you can only READ .pdf files if someone has MADE them first,
and to MAKE them you need to buy the full fledged product. the logic is that
by spreading the reader around for free you create demand. else it would be
a completely closed circuit. note, Microsoft offers a Word reader for .doc
files, and Real.Com offers a viewer for .rm files, all free.

i would say that, more than being cost effective, it is absolutely necessary
for Adobe to pass on its reader in order to stimulate use of the system.

etb

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 I just read the series of correspondence considering the Xerox
 machine and
 the usage of the term "Xerox" to refer to photocopying. Now the problem I
 have does not have to do with the term but with the use of advertising by
 providing a free product.  Adobe acrobat and its free reader for
 pdf files
 was the first thing that came to mind.  Is it really cost
 effective for Adobe
 to provide a free pdf reader when they could possibly sell it on the open
 market.  I know they sell other products related to pdf files, but is the
 advertising of the free reader really encouraging people to take
 advantage of
 their other products or is it causing people to abuse the reader and its
 benefits.   Seon





Re: Economist Olympics?

2000-09-21 Thread William Dickens

Can such games model reality well enough to give interesting results?

Interesting to whom? To game players yes. For certain purposes there are useful models 
that can help people understand how systems operate and predict outcomes.

Would economists agree on the meta-rules enough to agree to participate?

Absolutely not. If you can agree on a model you can almost always agree on the policy 
prescription. Most disagreements between economists are over what the right model is, 
not what policy should be pursued given the model.  -- Bill Dickens

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The Brookings Institution
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Washington, DC 20036
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Re: Adobe and pdf files

2000-09-21 Thread Alexander Guerrero



Alexander Guerrero wrote:

 Anyoneo who uses acrobat reader to read PDF documents, in the near future will
 enjoy the need to reverse the proces, that is to convert PDF to word and other
 way around. On leads to the other and you for Acrobat Destiller y Exchange and
 get  the reader "free".

 Alexander

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just read the series of correspondence considering the Xerox machine and
  the usage of the term "Xerox" to refer to photocopying. Now the problem I
  have does not have to do with the term but with the use of advertising by
  providing a free product.  Adobe acrobat and its free reader for pdf files
  was the first thing that came to mind.  Is it really cost effective for Adobe
  to provide a free pdf reader when they could possibly sell it on the open
  market.  I know they sell other products related to pdf files, but is the
  advertising of the free reader really encouraging people to take advantage of
  their other products or is it causing people to abuse the reader and its
  benefits.   Seon


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