Why not refinance when interest rates rise?

2000-12-14 Thread Robin Hanson

Interest is the relative price of present vs. future assets.
The higher the interest rates, the more future assets cost in
terms of present assets.

When you take out a loan you are buying present assets by
paying future assets, and the lower the interest rate the
better for you.  Once you have taken out a fixed rate loan,
however, you hold present assets and owe future assets,
and it seems you should prefer higher interest rates.  Thus
when interest rates rise that should be good news for you,
and when interest rates fall that should be bad news.

So why do homeowners act like falling rates are good news,
and why are they so much more eager to refinance loans when
rates fall rather than when rates rise?  Am I missing something?

For example, if you borrowed $100,000 at 7% interest, owing
$7000 per year forever, and then interest rates rose to 10%,
then you should be able to get someone else to take over your
$7000 per year obligation for only $70,000.  So you should
be able to refinance, make the same loan payment, and have
$30,000 more equity in your house.



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Re: Why not refinance when interest rates rise?

2000-12-14 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Robin,
 Note that you can't be better off "refinancing" since your payments
continue to be $7000 a year - thus consumption never rises and your
puzzle must involve an illusion!  So where is it?  Run your example in
reverse.  You borrow $70,000 at 10% paying $7000 per year forever.  The
interest rate then falls to 7%.  You thus borrow $100,000 at 7% and,
*following your logic*, you now take $70,000 of the new $100,000 and pay
off your loan giving you a savings of $30,000.  Great, but wrong!  You
owe the bank $7000 per year which at a 7% interest rate now has a NPV of
$100,000 - you therefore must give the bank $100,000 not $70,000.  No
gain.   

The key is that the NPV of the $7000 per year is $100,000 at a 7%
interest rate but only $70,000 at a 10% interest rate so *regardless* of
whether you "refinance" or not the real value of your mortgage changes
with the interest rate.  Essentially, what refinancing does in your
example is to reflect the real changes in nominal terms which otherwise
would not occur.

 What you should do when the interest rate goes up is save more -
that is the only source of gain.

Alex   



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Pocket Change

2000-12-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas


A friend of mine noticed that men tend to carry rather large
amounts of change in their pockets compare to women.

Any economic explanation of why this is?

-fabio




Re: Pocket Change

2000-12-14 Thread Nicholas Rozen


I can't resist claiming that men have more pockets, and therefore the
comparison is not between similar groups.

Perhaps there is also a Freudian or anthropological explanation.  Or it
could be an aesthetic consideration, considering that bulging pockets
may not be considered flattering.

But surely, it is unlikely for men to have a greater need for pocket
change than women.  Both sexes have similar needs to use vending
machines, commercial laundry, public transportation and so on, so I'd
rule out an economic motivation.  It is more likely to be aesthetic, I'm
guessing.  But what is a "large" amount here?

-Nick

fabio guillermo rojas wrote:
 
 A friend of mine noticed that men tend to carry rather large
 amounts of change in their pockets compare to women.
 
 Any economic explanation of why this is?
 
 -fabio




about Pocket Change

2000-12-14 Thread christopher

Fabio,

An explanation I would like to offer is that because of the fact that
traditionally money has been metal, and therefore coin, and until recently
the purchasing power of coins was relatively high, a large amount of coins
signaled wealth. And in the market for mates, this signaling where the male
has traditionally been the provider, has indicated a potentially better mate
than those who do not signal their wealth with a pocket jingaling of coins.
Let me know what you think about this idea.

Christopher :o)



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 A friend of mine noticed that men tend to carry rather large
 amounts of change in their pockets compare to women.

 Any economic explanation of why this is?

 -fabio






Re: Pocket Change

2000-12-14 Thread Amanda Phillips


I would say that men only have one place to put change (pockets). Most women 
have two places to put change (pockets and handbags). Maybe the real 
question is why don't men carry handbags?

Speaking from experience, it's much easier to carry change in a handbag 
rather than pockets. Change doesn't fall out of my handbag, like it does a 
pocket, and I don't jingle when I walk. Also, I don't have to transfer my 
change every time I change clothes... I almost always use the same handbag, 
with exceptions for special occasions or a different color shoe. :)

In addition, many articles of women's clothing do not even have pockets, so 
we're probably accustomed to finding other ways to carry our change. 
Interestingly, my most expensive dresses and suits don't have pockets, while 
my more inexpensive clothing does. I'm not sure why this is. But I 
definitely prefer the more expensive clothes without pockets.

So why don't men carry handbags?

Amanda
Accountant
CNet/ZDNet



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A friend of mine noticed that men tend to carry rather large
amounts of change in their pockets compare to women.

Any economic explanation of why this is?

-fabio


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