Ferguson and William Domhoff were closer to the mark than the
interest group pluralists are.
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These are all good comments
just take care of the details.
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These are all good comments on the Republican reversal. Thus, I take it
that the list
Grey Thomas wrote:
Let us assume the Bible is not true; further, that there is no Biblical God.
Thus, no basis for ANY of the 10 commandments, nor thus for any absolute
moral good vs. evil. So fornication, adultery, stealing, murder are not
This obviously results in a selfish, mean society
: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:21 PM
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Gray, Lynn wrote:
By saying it was inappropriate I meant it was rude. I am aware of the
weight of the evidence in regard to human evolution. However, to say
that those who believe in Biblical creation are dumb
under his academic economics section.
Lynn
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Gray, Lynn wrote:
By saying it was inappropriate I meant it was rude. I am
Lynn wrote:
In terms of farm subsidies if a person who supports them is wrong (as
we
agree he is) then there is a cost to them.
NO! There is a cost to society as a whole (including the individual) if
the majority is wrong about farm subsidies - but the individual has no
effect on this
This seems awfully off topic, but the notion that
atheism implies an immoral society is not true. For a
primer, visit:
www.infidels.org/library/modern/nontheism/atheism/morality-and-atheism.html
Regarding believing biblical creation, every person
should know that the Bible contradicts itself on
Irrespective of the objective truth of the Bible, the
superiority of a
Bible believing society is a position I strongly believe,
Doesn't your position commit you to believing that the people in our
society who do not believe in the Bible
are in fact mostly selfish mean criminals?
Tom Grey wrote
Further, I derive support for this from limited thought experiments:
Society A: more Atheist,
Society B: more Bible Believing.
In which society do I expect more fraud? more cheating spouses
promiscuity? more theft? more murder?
Well, even without empirical support, I
--- Michael Etchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CongressCritter does is to decide what to do not
about, say, farm subsidies generally, but about
SB1234, sponsored by Sen. This and Sen. That, which
goes through specific committees with specific
members...
So the farm bill never went to the floor
Fred Foldvary wrote:
Does the typical American agree, for example, that it is good
policy to spend billions on farm subsidies, or are they just ignorant and
apathetic?
I don't know of any survey evidence on this exact question, but
protection and industrial policy to save jobs are very
In the real world we have almost 600 in Congress, dealing with
innumerable matters more or less simultaneously. One of the things each
CongressCritter does is to decide what to do not about, say, farm
subsidies generally, but about SB1234, sponsored by Sen. This and Sen.
That, which goes
Yes, I believe that the majority of the American public supports
farm subsidies. The rational ignorance assumption fails to explain this
- it's not like the information that governments spends billions on the
farmers is hard to find.
Some combination of Bryan's rational irrationality
You mean He didn't?
Rodney Weiher
Alex Tabarrok wrote:
Yes, I believe that the majority of the American public supports
farm subsidies. The rational ignorance assumption fails to explain this
- it's not like the information that governments spends billions on the
farmers is hard to
fabio guillermo rojas wrote:
. . . lobbiests (sp?) . . .
Since you ask: lobbyists.
`y' changes to `i' before `-est' (superlative) and `-(e)th' (ordinal)
but not before `-ist' (agent).
--
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/
athier than thou
The implication that those who believe in the historical accuracy of the
Bible are ignorant was inappropriate, Alex.
Lynn
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Lynn Gray wrote:
The implication that those who believe in the historical accuracy of the
Bible are ignorant was inappropriate, Alex.
Forty four percent of the American public thinks that God created
human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the
last 10,000 years or
--- Alex wrote:
Yes, I believe that the majority of the American public supports
farm subsidies.
Why do corporations, lawyers, unions, and other interests provide candidates
and elected representatives with millions of dollars of funds and favors if
they just vote to satisfy the median
, July 17, 2002 11:30 AM
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Yes, I believe that the majority of the American public supports
farm subsidies. The rational ignorance assumption fails to explain this
- it's not like the information that governments spends billions
Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Lynn Gray wrote:
The implication that those who believe in the historical accuracy of the
Bible are ignorant was inappropriate, Alex.
Forty four percent of the American
Fred Foldvary wrote:
...if the typical American favors subsidies to sugar farmers and
does not mind if the domestic price is over twice the world price, and does
not care much if candy-making jobs are moving to Canada, why do sugar farmers
contribute funds to candidates if the representatives
Gray, Lynn wrote:
By saying it was inappropriate I meant it was rude. I am aware of the
weight of the evidence in regard to human evolution. However, to say
that those who believe in Biblical creation are dumb/ignorant is at
the very least less than good manners.
Worse than saying the same
--- Alex wrote:
Yes, I believe that the majority of the American public supports
farm subsidies.
to which Fred Foldvary replied:
Why do corporations, lawyers, unions, and other interests provide
candidates and elected representatives with millions of dollars of funds
and favors if they
These are all good comments on the Republican reversal. Thus, I take it
that the list agrees that democracy works pretty well in reflecting the
wishes of the voters.
Alex
I don't agree. What about the large literature on voter ignorance and rent
seeking? Does the typical American agree,
Fred Foldvary:
Does the typical American agree, for example, that it is good policy to
spend billions on farm subsidies, or are they just ignorant and
apathetic?
But that is not an example of anything that happens in the real world.
In the real world we have almost 600 in Congress, dealing
These are all good comments on the Republican reversal. Thus, I take it
that the list agrees that democracy works pretty well in reflecting the
wishes of the voters.
Alex
I'd say democracy reflects general trend in voter opinion pretty
well, although some policies may be way out of whack.
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These are all good comments on the Republican reversal. Thus, I
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Alex asks whether the Radical Republicans that were
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