Re: Socialist health and starvation

2003-09-29 Thread john-morrow
I believe that even quite recently (in the last year or two) China was found
to be inflating its growth estimates significantly, and I have some
economically minded Indian friends who claim Indian estimates are also
intentionally inflated.  I believe at the collapse of the Soviet Union it was
found that may growth estimates were also inflated back into the Seventies at
least, so I would look towards number tampering in general as being a
contributing cause.

Quoting fabio guillermo rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> In preparing a lecture about socialist economies, I have come across the
> claim that socialist nations had decent life expectancies. How can that
> be?  We know that:
>
> (a) there have been episodes of mass starvation in the largest
> socialist nations (USSR, China)
>
> (b) socialist nations have often engaged in destructive wars
> against other nations (USSR) and against their own populations
> (Cambodia)
>
> (c) chronic shortages of consumer goods, and in some cases,
> shortage of basic food stuffs (think of wheat imports to Russia
> and North Korea)
>
> (d) Socialist nations tend to be stressful places with mass arrests
> and
> the like
>
> I could think of a few mechanisms: socialist nations tend to invest in the
> kind of infra-structurers that extend life (Education, sanitation, etc.),
> a vibrant black market, or most likely - vital statistics from these
> nations are hugely misleading.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Fabio
>


Socialist health and starvation

2003-09-29 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
In preparing a lecture about socialist economies, I have come across the
claim that socialist nations had decent life expectancies. How can that
be?  We know that:

(a) there have been episodes of mass starvation in the largest
socialist nations (USSR, China)

(b) socialist nations have often engaged in destructive wars
against other nations (USSR) and against their own populations
(Cambodia)

(c) chronic shortages of consumer goods, and in some cases,
shortage of basic food stuffs (think of wheat imports to Russia
and North Korea)

(d) Socialist nations tend to be stressful places with mass arrests and
the like

I could think of a few mechanisms: socialist nations tend to invest in the
kind of infra-structurers that extend life (Education, sanitation, etc.),
a vibrant black market, or most likely - vital statistics from these
nations are hugely misleading.

Any comments?

Fabio