Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread Bryan Caplan
I just read the well-reviewed *Women Don't Ask* by Babcock and
Laschever.  Main thesis: Women should bargain harder.
It is frankly kind of silly.  The whole book makes it sound like
aggressive bargaining is a strictly dominant strategy, so women will
definitely be better off if they do more of it.  It never considers the
obvious possibility that women will price themselves out of a job.  Nor
does it explore the interesting possibility that one reason female
employees are doing so well in spite of obvious child-related drawbacks
is precisely that employers know that they are less likely to demand
more money.
The book also tries to get women to bargain more aggressively in
relationships.  I think this is another case where feminist norms are
likely to function as a price control - some women will get a better
deal, but a lot of others will be unable to get married because their
standards are too high.
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Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
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Re: Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread john-morrow
Following the analogy of price control, any evidence that the group advocating
aggressive relationship bargining are the same ones who would generally benefit
by such a policy?  On a related note, do the strength of male/female bargining
positions in a long term relationship change as male libido decreases over their
20's and 30's and female libido peaks around 35-38?  (Think Battle of the
Sexes over several periods...)  Wild conjectures welcomed.

-- John Morrow

Quoting Bryan Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just read the well-reviewed *Women Don't Ask* by Babcock and
 Laschever.  Main thesis: Women should bargain harder.

 It is frankly kind of silly.  The whole book makes it sound like
 aggressive bargaining is a strictly dominant strategy, so women will
 definitely be better off if they do more of it.  It never considers the
 obvious possibility that women will price themselves out of a job.  Nor
 does it explore the interesting possibility that one reason female
 employees are doing so well in spite of obvious child-related drawbacks
 is precisely that employers know that they are less likely to demand
 more money.

 The book also tries to get women to bargain more aggressively in
 relationships.  I think this is another case where feminist norms are
 likely to function as a price control - some women will get a better
 deal, but a lot of others will be unable to get married because their
 standards are too high.
 --
  Prof. Bryan Caplan
 Department of Economics  George Mason University
  http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn.

 --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*



Re: Women Don't Ask

2004-01-28 Thread AdmrlLocke
Um, who says the male libido decreases over the 20s and 30s? :-D

David Levenstam
In a message dated 1/28/04 3:05:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Following the analogy of price control, any evidence that the group
advocating

aggressive relationship bargining are the same ones who would generally
benefit

by such a policy?  On a related note, do the strength of male/female
bargining

positions in a long term relationship change as male libido decreases over
their

20's and 30's and female libido peaks around 35-38?  (Think Battle of
the

Sexes over several periods...)  Wild conjectures welcomed.



-- John Morrow