Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-10 Thread Pat McCann

I have noticed the entire Cape Cod region of MA
also seems to shun the free refill pricing
method, at least they did when I was there a few
years ago. Is it possible their consumers have
similar elasticity levels to those in Europe,
 especially given their high tourist composition?
This policy seems to range from the Ruby Tuesday
/ Denny's mid range level restaurant to the more
pricey and distinguished one of a kind store.

Pat McCann
GMU Undergrad 


On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Bryan Caplan wrote:

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Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-09 Thread Bernard Girard

We have in Europe things that look like free-re-fills. In some French
restaurants (but it's probably true in other european countries) you
have "buffets" : you choose what you eat on a table and you eat as much
as you wish. It's a good deal for the restaurant owner : more food eaten
(but not much more) and less work in the kitchen and in the diner room :
to choose the food you have to walk to the buffet and do the job of the
waiter.

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Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-09 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Rather than an elasticity explanation I would suggest a two part
tarriff.  The initial charge grabs the consumer surplus, MC is close to
zero for soft drinks (mostly water) so p=MC is optimal.  Fabio's real
question, however, is why do some restaurants choose one policy and
others another.  This is hard to say.  Two part tarrifs work well when
customer demands are similar.  Thus, restaurants which serve a
specialized clientiele, serve only one type of meal etc. should offer
free refills.  Can this help to explain a related puzzle?  Although we
often think of free refills at all you can eat or family type
restaurants, just about every *fine* dining establishment I know offers
free refills on coffee, while McDonalds and Burger King don't offer free
refills on anything.


Alex






Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-08 Thread michael gilson de lemos

Restaurants of what type and what were their corresponding policies?

Best Regards,
MG
 Is there any logic to whether restaraunts offer free refills for soda
 drinks?
 
 I've observed one street alone among  three restaraunts 




Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-08 Thread Bryan Caplan

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   what it is to see, to hear, to remember, to judge?  Yet it is
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   it is not more difficult than it is useless.  Sometimes
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   definitions, we shall find that they amount to no more than
   giving one synonymous word for another, and commonly a worse
   for a better."
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Re: Free Re-fills

2000-07-08 Thread Pierre Lemieux

At 21:16 00-07-08, you wrote:
Related question: Why no free re-fills in
Europe?
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It depends what you re-fill. If you have dinner in a Paris Bistrot
roman (a chain of upper middle class fast food) and you take the
smoked salmon, they will re-fill you as much as you want. Same with their
chocolate pudding. If my previous hypethesis is true, this would mean
that there is, in Paris, a large clientèle with an elastic demand for
smoked salmon, and a small clientèle with a low, non-elastic demand. You
want to price discriminate against the former, but not chase away the
latter.

Interestingly, the Bistrot romain serves very thin slices of smoked
salmon, which they re-fill at will. There is no point to give customers
more than they would be willing to pay for.



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