RE: Kolko 40 Years Later -- homelessness data?

2003-06-20 Thread Grey Thomas

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The main good it provides is a negative one, that of keeping
  homelessness and starvation to a low enough level to prevent
  political instability.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This of course presumes that the welfare state reduces homelessness
  and starvation rather than encouraging it.

In politics the appearance is usually more important than the reality.

-- 
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/

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While I, too, fully agree (statements and inuendos) ... I'd like to challenge the 
Armchair list for objective data showing the welfare state reducing homelessness, or 
increasing it, or not.

I don't think there are any good studies with good conclusions.

Tom Grey



Re: Kolko 40 Years Later -- homelessness data?

2003-06-20 Thread AdmrlLocke
In all fairness, I didn't claim that welfare does increase homelessness, 
though I suspect that it does, but merely pointed out that the statement seemed to 
presume--or that in any case people supporting welfare often presume--that it 
decreases homelessness.

As for emprical research, I second Tom's call.  I do seem to recall that the 
issue of welfare dependence briefly loomed large during the 1980s, and that 
one statist-liberal think-tank (I believe it was Brookings, and perhaps Bill 
Wickens recalls) published a study that concluded that welfare did not cause 
welfare dependence.  I also recall The Wall Street Journal editorial page and 
others ripping to shreds that study.  I don't recall if the study addressed 
homelessness per se.

David


In a message dated 6/20/03 11:07:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The main good it provides is a negative one, that of keeping

  homelessness and starvation to a low enough level to prevent

  political instability.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This of course presumes that the welfare state reduces homelessness

  and starvation rather than encouraging it.



In politics the appearance is usually more important than the reality.



-- 

Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/



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While I, too, fully agree (statements and inuendos) ... I'd like to challenge
the Armchair list for objective data showing the welfare state reducing
homelessness, or increasing it, or not.



I don't think there are any good studies with good conclusions.



Tom Grey