RE: Questions about the stagflation episode... Advice to journalists

2003-02-03 Thread Grey Thomas
Message- From: Alex Tabarrok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: Questions about the stagflation episode... I think that today there is a unified macro (Bill recognized that saying there wasn't was going out on a limb). Macro is now in a period of normal science. The profession

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-03 Thread William Dickens
I'm actually not a Kuhnian on these issues, but I am trying to see how far Kuhn's theory goes in accurately describing economic research. Is it really true that there aren't reigning paradigms in meteorology? That is not what I meant. Of course there is. Its thermodynamics. However, to an

RE: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-03 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Grey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off, if macro is at all close to a science, there should be near unanimity, among macro experts, Is there unanimity among anthropologists and biologists and physicists and medical researchers? Fred Foldvary = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-03 Thread Fred Foldvary
Also, almost all the profession will now also agree that ... a large fraction of what we call business cycles are the natural responses of an economy to real shocks. Alex Would that fraction include the downturn that followed the 1990s techno-boom, the recession having begun

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-03 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, William Dickens wrote: That is not what I meant. Of course there is. Its thermodynamics. However, to an outsider it looks to impose about as much structure on weather modeling as the notion of general equilibrium imposes on macro-modeling - - that is that the devil is in

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
IIUC, macro was characterized by multiple schools but there was an outstanding critique that the micro picture was flawed or asbent, which served to undermine one popular school. The anomaly didn't serve to usher in a new macro, but unravel some old science, which still has adherents in a

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-02 Thread William Dickens
For the most part a fair summary of what I wrote, but I'm not sure that macro is in a pre-scientific state. That's giving both too much and too little credit to the current state of macro. Pre-science implies that eventually there will be a unified scientific theory. For all the various reasons

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-02 Thread Alex Tabarrok
I think that today there is a unified macro (Bill recognized that saying there wasn't was going out on a limb). Macro is now in a period of normal science. The profession has decided that the corect way to do macro is using a stochastic dynamic general equilibrium model. Some people include

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
Well maybe macro *is* in a scientific state, from your description. Sticking to Kuhn's terminology, normal scientific activity occurs when scientists use existing models to solve outstanding issues. From one perspective, maco is organized around general equilibria, and the fighting is over the

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, William Dickens wrote: don't fit easily into Kuhn's categories. We're in the same situation as meteorology (only worse because our subjects have minds of their own). We know that weather systems are chaotic and therefore unpredictable beyond very limited time frames.

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-01 Thread William Dickens
None of the above. Macro was already fragmented and remained fragmented after the 70s. Hard core monetarism probably did pick-up some adherents due to the events of the 70s, but the internal dynamic of the profession - - the relentless march of the rational actor model into all aspects of the