"Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote:

> >>: "Sourav K. Mandal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> I do not
> >> see too many of the wealthy step up to bat against high tax rates.
> >> Do they accept money in government coffers as currency for the
> >> influential, i.e. limousine liberalism at its worst?
> 
> >: Pierre Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Your hypothesis is intriguing, but I would think that a better way to
> > explian why rich tax protestors are rare is simply that the opportunity
> > cost of their time is high and, so, the cost of collective action is much
> > higher for them. (It is true, though, that their expected benefits might be
> > higher since, indeed, they are more likely to have an influence.)
> >
> My take is that once the principle of legal plunder is loose,
> those who will decide to lobby will have an incentive to lobby
> rather for _more_ taxes, not less taxes, albeit taxes that will
> benefit _them_ as opposed to other people, in the form of
> direct state subsidies, regulations that will prevent competition,
> tax rebates and differential taxing according to criteria that would
> specifically benefit them, etc. To once again quote Bryan Caplan's
> Anarchist Theory FAQ, end of section 15, itself quoting David Friedman,
> "Under governmental institutions, good law is a public good and
> bad law is a private good".

Yes, the classic negative sum game. 

> > A standard
> > anomaly: people like Bill Gates, who supports all the PC causes espoused by
> > the tyrant who persecutes him!
> 
> Bill Gates is not an anomaly, at least, not in the way you think.
> The tyrant persecutes him, but the tyrant also raised him to begin with;
> it's really a story of the tyrant giving then taking away according to
> his whims; a story of the arbitrary, of the lack of Rule of Law.

Um, when was he raised by the "tyrant?"  Bill Gates grew up as an 
ambitious middle class/upper-middle class kid.  He certainly never 
received any direct support from the government, and if you mean 
copyright protection, then nearly every author ever is a similar 
Frankenstein monster.

This is what is confounding about Bill Gates.  He has achieved so 
much by his own hand, yet is a proponent of gov't policies that 
abrogate the rights of those like him in future generations.

> Government grant monopolies in the form of copyrights and patents,
> and then, they wonder why things go wrong as brilliant though immoral
> businessmen milk these monopolies by aggregating them into bigger
> and bigger monopolies! What marvels me is not the evil of it all,
> but the capacity of evildoers to blank out their own evil.
> Gotta re-read "Atlas Shrugged" (although poor Ayn Rand was misled
> into believing that IP was actual property).

Exclusive patents are stupid, and I think they should be abolished 
to make way for concurrent patents, "public good" be damned.  
Concurrent patents can be support by the same line of reasoning as 
copyrights -- IP is indeed property, owned by the creator.  I could 
get into it here, but I am afraid we are veering sharply off-topic 
...

Sourav Mandal


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Sourav K. Mandal

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Department of Physics
http://web.mit.edu/smandal/www/

"In enforcing a truth we need severity rather than
efflorescence of language. We must be simple, 
precise, terse."

                      -- Edgar Allan Poe, 
                        "The Poetic Principle"



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Sourav K. Mandal

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Department of Physics
http://web.mit.edu/smandal/www/

"In enforcing a truth we need severity rather than
efflorescence of language. We must be simple, 
precise, terse."

                      -- Edgar Allan Poe, 
                         "The Poetic Principle"

        


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