Re: returns to higher education

2001-08-27 Thread Edward Lopez

According to an estimate by an organization that supports greater higher education 
funding, the bachelor's degree is worth approximately $580,000 over a high school 
diploma.
http://www.aft.org/higher_ed/funding/

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There are a number of previous studies which suggest that returns are higher to 
attending schools where students have higher SAT scores, but none of these do a very 
good job of controlling for the unobserved characteristics of the persons attending 
the schools. Krueger does this in a recent study by controlling for the quality of the 
schools you were accepted to (not everyone goes to the best school that accepts them) 
and finds that average SAT scores don't matter but tuition does. I am not convinced 
that the identification is bullet proof nor that the result might not be sensitive to 
specification. Particularly since average SAT score at schools is always badly 
mismeasured (either because the schools misreport them or because of the limited 
samples used to estimate them). 
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Re: returns to higher education

2001-08-24 Thread William Dickens

There are a number of previous studies which suggest that returns are higher to 
attending schools where students have higher SAT scores, but none of these do a very 
good job of controlling for the unobserved characteristics of the persons attending 
the schools. Krueger does this in a recent study by controlling for the quality of the 
schools you were accepted to (not everyone goes to the best school that accepts them) 
and finds that average SAT scores don't matter but tuition does. I am not convinced 
that the identification is bullet proof nor that the result might not be sensitive to 
specification. Particularly since average SAT score at schools is always badly 
mismeasured (either because the schools misreport them or because of the limited 
samples used to estimate them). 
-- Bill Dickens

William T. Dickens
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 797-6113
FAX: (202) 797-6181
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Re: returns to higher education

2001-08-23 Thread Peter Boettke

Hirschleifer's intermediate book reports that reputation of the school
matters significantly.  This is an older study, but he suggests that it is
not your SAT score that matters, but the SAT score of your entering freshman
class.  This supports the signaling theory of education, as opposed to
either training or sorting.

Also, I just saw a recent study on the news here in DC that reported that
what mattered most was major. The return to education for engineering is
still high, but the return for the humanities are low.


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Re: returns to higher education

2001-08-23 Thread Technotranscendence

On Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:25 PM Peter Boettke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hirschleifer's intermediate book reports that reputation of the school
 matters significantly.  This is an older study, but he suggests that it is
 not your SAT score that matters, but the SAT score of your entering
freshman
 class.  This supports the signaling theory of education, as opposed to
 either training or sorting.

 Also, I just saw a recent study on the news here in DC that reported that
 what mattered most was major. The return to education for engineering is
 still high, but the return for the humanities are low.

Speaking from a position of near total ignorance, I would also think you
might make connections at the better schools...  Do the studies account for
that?

And, of course, if the incoming class scores high on SATs, this doesn't give
us a way of judging how much value the school itself puts into the education
beyond being around other high SAT scoring people.  (This is not a bad
thing, but I can imagine two schools using exactly the same teaching
methods, curricula, books, etc. and getting differing outputs simply because
one school had smarter students than the other.)

Cheers!

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