Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-07 Thread stanley garvey
On Sep 5, 2012 14:38 "Stuart Winter" wrote: > > Yeah, I'd miss it too... I still use qemu with its snapshot feature > > to > > build packages on a "clean" installation. > > My real ARM hardware has too many packages installed to consider it > > a > > clean installation. > > I had a look and real

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-06 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 6 September 2012 17:20, John O'Donnell wrote: > On 09/06/2012 06:04 AM, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> >> On 6 September 2012 09:25, Cédric VINCENT >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> For information, QEMU user-mode doesn't require any "guest" kernel >>> since all privileged operations are redirected to the "host

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-06 Thread John O'Donnell
On 09/06/2012 06:04 AM, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 6 September 2012 09:25, Cédric VINCENT wrote: For information, QEMU user-mode doesn't require any "guest" kernel since all privileged operations are redirected to the "host" one. You assume that everybody uses Linux on PC as a host. If you use

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-06 Thread Davide
>> For information, QEMU user-mode doesn't require any "guest" kernel >> since all privileged operations are redirected to the "host" one. >You assume that everybody uses Linux on PC as a host. If you use >Windows for example you need full system emulation. I just could not resist ... this is j

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-06 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 6 September 2012 09:25, Cédric VINCENT wrote: > > For information, QEMU user-mode doesn't require any "guest" kernel > since all privileged operations are redirected to the "host" one. You assume that everybody uses Linux on PC as a host. If you use Windows for example you need full system emu

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-06 Thread Cédric VINCENT
Hello, For information, QEMU user-mode doesn't require any "guest" kernel since all privileged operations are redirected to the "host" one. Moreover the user-mode is a lot faster than the system-mode since there's no device emulation at all [0]. Let me demonstrate how you can use your favorite di

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-09-05 Thread Stuart Winter
> Yeah, I'd miss it too... I still use qemu with its snapshot feature to > build packages on a "clean" installation. > My real ARM hardware has too many packages installed to consider it a > clean installation. I had a look and realised that to remove all the references to Versatile, and test the

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Niels Horn
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Robby Workman wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT) > Stuart Winter wrote: > >> >> Hi >> >> I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. >> I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I >> needed a stop gap. >>

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Winter
> and you can add gobs of RAM SWAP support in qeum that isnt available to the > real hardware. The machine type I provide packages for is the VersatilePB which only supports 256MB RAM, and you certainly would not want it paging. -- Stuart Winter Slackware ARM: www.armedslack.org ___

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread John O'Donnell
On 08/31/2012 11:05 AM, Davide wrote: I still find qemu useful when I want to test something out amd that qould be emulating ARM from x86 hardware. I know arm hardware is cheap nowadays ... but qemu is cheaper and no need to wait for shipping ;) and you can add gobs of RAM SWAP support in qeum

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 31 August 2012 16:22, Stuart Winter wrote: > >> I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the >> /slackwarearm/slackwarearm-devtools/qemu/ ? > > The 'versatile' kernel packages. Then in this case, yes, I'd still like to play with them if possible. _

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Winter
> I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the > /slackwarearm/slackwarearm-devtools/qemu/ ? The 'versatile' kernel packages. -- Stuart Winter Slackware ARM: www.armedslack.org ___ ARMedslack mailing list ARMedslack@lists.armeds

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 31 August 2012 15:09, Stuart Winter wrote: > > I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. > I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I > needed a stop gap. I don't understand what you mean by qemu packages. Do you mean the /slackwarearm/slackwarearm

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Davide
Inviato: Venerdì 31 Agosto 2012 16:09 Oggetto: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it? Hi I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I needed a stop gap. The thing is that QEMU is *so slow

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Robby Workman
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Stuart Winter wrote: > > Hi > > I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. > I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I > needed a stop gap. > > The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it be

Re: [ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Thorsten Mühlfelder
I've never used QEMU and I think nowadays ARM hardware is really cheap to get. So even for a first try beginners may rather buy an ARM board than using QEMU. 2012/8/31 Stuart Winter : > > Hi > > I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. > I only added these years ago because m

[ARMedslack] QEMU support - does anybody care about it?

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Winter
Hi I am thinking about removing the QEMU packages from -current. I only added these years ago because my real ARM hardware died and I needed a stop gap. The thing is that QEMU is *so slow* that I cannot imagine it being useful at all, apart from a 10 minute novelty for x86 users. It takes time t