Re: [aroma.affymetrix] peculiar array quality

2010-07-23 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Hi,

it's hard to say what causing this, but if you see it in several
samples at the same location, then my immediate thought is that you
reference signal may carry it.  Are you using the average of the pool
of all samples as a reference or how do you calculate it?   How many
samples to you have in your reference pool?  CN polymorphic regions
that are frequent enough in your population could cause this, but then
it should be a real biological signal, which you say it isn't.

Are you using the full or the default GenomeWideSNP_6 CDF?  Affymetrix
removed several CN loci from the former to make the latter - CN loci
that they found to be poor for CN analysis.  This could also be a
reason though those loci should be scattered fairly randomly along the
genome.

You could also check if there is a difference between the signals from
SNPs and CN loci.  If there is, that would indicate that there is some
artifacts on the arrays.

Also, are you really sure you are using the correct annotation data?
For instance, if you use the full CDF to generate the data, but only
the default for extracting genome locations (assuming the same
ordering of row indices), such weird things may show up.  If you plot
your data using the ChromosomeExplorer, this should be taken care of
automatically.

Also, do some QC plots using ArrayExplorer; there might be spatial
artifacts, although it sounds unlikely.

Sorry, not much help, but at least some directions for troubleshooting.

/Henrik


On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Matt Wilkerson mdwilk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I have detected what I think is an array quality issue and wanted to get
 others' opinions about this phenomena.

 I observed this issue on chromosome views of CN from SNP6 arrays.  It looks
 like a smearing effect where CN has irregular values and a range of large
 negative numbers to zero within specific regions.  The regions at which this
 happens are identical in affected samples and occur on basically all
 chromosomes.  This smearing is not cancer DNA segment loss, where probes
 belonging to a segment have similar CN values.  In a group of about 70
 arrays, 1/3 of the arrays have this issue and the others have expected
 segments of discrete amplifications/deletions.  I have compared specimen,
 technical, and array characteristics to try to find a batch or quality
 issues, but the effect appears so far to be randomly occuring.

 I put an example at:
 http://www.unc.edu/~mwilkers/artifact.png
 In the plot, the points are probes. Axes are base position and log2 median
 centered copy number.  The lines are segments overlaid.  The colors are not
 important.

 I don't think this is an aroma issue - I detect the phenomena using
 apt-copynumber-workflow also.  The only affymetrix summary option that
 associated with the artifact samples was allele summarization mean.  The
 artifact arrays had lower values.
 Also, I have used aroma successfully with 250K_Sty arrays often and never
 seen this phenomena.

 My question:
 Has anyone seen this phenomena before?
 Does anyone have an explanation or suggestion?


 Thank you,

 Matt Wilkerson
 Lineberger Comprehensive Cancer Center
 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

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[aroma.affymetrix] peculiar array quality

2010-07-21 Thread Matt Wilkerson
Hello,

I have detected what I think is an array quality issue and wanted to get
others' opinions about this phenomena.

I observed this issue on chromosome views of CN from SNP6 arrays.  It looks
like a smearing effect where CN has irregular values and a range of large
negative numbers to zero within specific regions.  The regions at which this
happens are identical in affected samples and occur on basically all
chromosomes.  This smearing is not cancer DNA segment loss, where probes
belonging to a segment have similar CN values.  In a group of about 70
arrays, 1/3 of the arrays have this issue and the others have expected
segments of discrete amplifications/deletions.  I have compared specimen,
technical, and array characteristics to try to find a batch or quality
issues, but the effect appears so far to be randomly occuring.

I put an example at:
http://www.unc.edu/~mwilkers/artifact.pnghttp://www.unc.edu/%7Emwilkers/artifact.png
In the plot, the points are probes. Axes are base position and log2 median
centered copy number.  The lines are segments overlaid.  The colors are not
important.

I don't think this is an aroma issue - I detect the phenomena using
apt-copynumber-workflow also.  The only affymetrix summary option that
associated with the artifact samples was allele summarization mean.  The
artifact arrays had lower values.
Also, I have used aroma successfully with 250K_Sty arrays often and never
seen this phenomena.

My question:
Has anyone seen this phenomena before?
Does anyone have an explanation or suggestion?


Thank you,

Matt Wilkerson
Lineberger Comprehensive Cancer Center
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

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