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Gayathri, Thanks for the most coherent, concise, apt posting in a long time. - Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gayathri" wrote: > > Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I > joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and > the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions > here..." > > I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to > work both ways here, I believe. > > Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their > negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. > > But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named > as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true > feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be > shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and > faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? > > I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is > not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan > and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or > techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they > found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as > soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of > music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens > here. > > One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while > reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that > was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be > expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as > wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. > > A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda > Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song > in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the > music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more > inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my > liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is > respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful > way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following > comments on the song and it's fans? :- > > "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" > or > "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this > song" or > "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" > > Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? > Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for > the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the > song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. > > My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum > nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be > given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' > feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless > praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful > remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at > least in this forum? > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my > opinion, A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of > criticism is needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review > posted should not be automatically be shot down. > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about > sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage > Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and > Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible > negative review if you have to. Those who do not agree, give proper > argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all defensive. Don't keep > replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR reads > our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would > be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), > with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest > start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I > only use this account for the group... > > >
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@Gayathri - Bravo! I was also hurt when I read something along the lines of : - you are forcing yourself to make sure you like the songs and write good about them. - you are praising/liking the music just because it got ARR name in credits - just admit it that you actually dont like the songs This is forcing others to feel the same as you do.. which is inappropriate & should be unacceptable. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gayathri" wrote: > > Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I > joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and > the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions > here..." > > I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to > work both ways here, I believe. > > Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their > negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. > > But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named > as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true > feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be > shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and > faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? > > I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is > not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan > and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or > techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they > found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as > soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of > music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens > here. > > One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while > reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that > was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be > expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as > wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. > > A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda > Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song > in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the > music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more > inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my > liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is > respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful > way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following > comments on the song and it's fans? :- > > "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" > or > "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this > song" or > "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" > > Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? > Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for > the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the > song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. > > My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum > nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be > given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' > feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless > praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful > remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at > least in this forum? > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my > opinion, A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of > criticism is needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review > posted should not be automatically be shot down. > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about > sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage > Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and > Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible > negative review if you have to. Those who do not agree, give proper > argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all defensive. Don't keep > replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR reads > our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would > be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), > with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest > start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture.
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I hope this mail will be a good dose of medicine for our group. SAJIN From: Gayathri To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 10:35:25 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Gotta think thrice before posting nowadays... Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here..." I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work both ways here, I believe. Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens here. One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this song" or "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, A.R. >doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is needed. >Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not be >automatically be shot down. > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > ones, >not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I personally >do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The >list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you have to. Those who >do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all >defensive. >Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR >reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would >be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with > every >new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing >that >person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use >this account for the group... >
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Dont you think its like experience a travel between extremes. You got to read mails saying "divine", "heavenly".. and all of a sudden "lost touch", "not showing interest", "done by assistants", "concentrating on concerts", "reused".. Well I laugh at those mails which has too much of exaggeration in praises and learning to ignore the negative. Its my mind which has to decide. If I go by others' view I may miss an opportunity of a good thing. At times I would remember the Fox & grapes story, so would occasionally read those posts for entertainment. Bcs if I have to enjoy music its personal for me and my opinion is though I like it or dont like it I cant force others to be the same. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" wrote: > > Gayathri, > > I couldn't have expressed what you expressed better! Please post more! We > need more like you in here! > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gayathri" wrote: > > > > Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I > > joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and > > the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions > > here..." > > > > I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to > > work both ways here, I believe. > > > > Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their > > negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. > > > > But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named > > as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true > > feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be > > shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and > > faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? > > > > I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is > > not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan > > and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or > > techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they > > found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as > > soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of > > music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens > > here. > > > > One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while > > reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that > > was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be > > expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as > > wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. > > > > A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda > > Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song > > in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the > > music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more > > inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my > > liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is > > respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful > > way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following > > comments on the song and it's fans? :- > > > > "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" > > or > > "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this > > song" or > > "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" > > > > Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? > > Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for > > the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the > > song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. > > > > My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum > > nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be > > given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' > > feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless > > praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful > > remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at > > least in this forum? > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my > > opinion, A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of > > criticism is needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review > > posted should not be automatically be shot down. > > > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about > > sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage > > Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and > > Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible > > n
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Exactly! Nicely written. Negative review should be written without hurting anyone elses feelings... Really hope that we will see some changes soon:) http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use this account for the group... --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Gayathri wrote: From: Gayathri Subject: [arr] Re: Gotta think thrice before posting nowadays... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 11:35 PM Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here..." I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work both ways here, I believe. Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens here. One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this song" or "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, A.R. > doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is needed. > Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not be > automatically be shot down. > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I > personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere > Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you > have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't > just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than > AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved > (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him going through all the &g
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Kudos, Gayatri. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Sirish Musician wrote: > > > well said gayatri > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Gayathri wrote: > >> >> >> Quote:- *"I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I >> joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the >> rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions >> here..."* >> >> I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work >> both ways here, I believe. >> >> Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their >> negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. >> >> But then again, what about members who *praise* ARR's music? We are named >> as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, >> etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then >> calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions >> should not be allowed as well, am I right? >> >> I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is >> not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and >> Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. >> On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to >> be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, >> wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not >> right! But that's exactly what happens here. >> >> One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading >> the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was >> insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting >> others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing >> or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. >> >> A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda >> (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. >> I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to >> overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I >> don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that >> many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others >> and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react >> if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- >> >> "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or >> "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this >> song" or >> "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" >> >> Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or >> are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the >> simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? >> It's sound preposterous even to myself. >> >> My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum >> nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given >> due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A >> fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I >> agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying >> virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? >> >> >> >> >> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: >> > >> > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, >> A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is >> needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not >> be automatically be shot down. >> > >> > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about >> sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage >> Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and >> Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative >> review if you have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or >> ignore it). Don't just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you >> know better than AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is >> anything to be improved (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him >> going through all the unnecessary hate mails. >> > >> > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with >> every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start >> bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... >> > >> > >> > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 >> > http://indian-music-bg
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Well said Gayathri. I cant see much postings from you, please post more. Like all your postings From: Gayathri To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 2:35:25 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Gotta think thrice before posting nowadays... Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here..." I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work both ways here, I believe. Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens here. One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this song" or "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, A.R. >doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is needed. >Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not be >automatically be shot down. > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > ones, >not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I personally >do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The >list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you have to. Those who >do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all >defensive. >Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR >reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would >be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with > every >new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing >that >person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use >this account for the group... >
Re: [arr] Re: Gotta think thrice before posting nowadays...
well said gayatri On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Gayathri wrote: > > > Quote:- *"I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I > joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the > rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions > here..."* > > I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work > both ways here, I believe. > > Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their > negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. > > But then again, what about members who *praise* ARR's music? We are named > as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, > etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then > calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions > should not be allowed as well, am I right? > > I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is > not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and > Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. > On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to > be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, > wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not > right! But that's exactly what happens here. > > One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading > the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was > insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting > others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing > or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. > > A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda > (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. > I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to > overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I > don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that > many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others > and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react > if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- > > "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or > "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this song" > or > "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" > > Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or > are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the > simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? > It's sound preposterous even to myself. > > My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum > nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given > due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A > fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I > agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying > virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, > A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is > needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not > be automatically be shot down. > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I > personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere > Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you > have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't > just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than > AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved > (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him going through all the > unnecessary hate mails. > > > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with > every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start > bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only > use this account for the group... > > > > > -- "Friendship is not about finding the right person, but creating the right relationship. Its not how much we care in the beginning, but how much we care till th
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Gayathri, I couldn't have expressed what you expressed better! Please post more! We need more like you in here! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gayathri" wrote: > > Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I > joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and > the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions > here..." > > I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to > work both ways here, I believe. > > Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their > negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. > > But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named > as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true > feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be > shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and > faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? > > I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is > not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan > and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or > techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they > found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as > soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of > music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens > here. > > One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while > reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that > was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be > expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as > wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. > > A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda > Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song > in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the > music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more > inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my > liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is > respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful > way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following > comments on the song and it's fans? :- > > "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" > or > "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this > song" or > "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" > > Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? > Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for > the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the > song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. > > My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum > nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be > given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' > feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless > praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful > remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at > least in this forum? > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my > opinion, A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of > criticism is needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review > posted should not be automatically be shot down. > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about > sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage > Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and > Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible > negative review if you have to. Those who do not agree, give proper > argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all defensive. Don't keep > replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR reads > our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would > be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), > with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest > start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I > only use this account for the group... > > >
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Criticizing and posting negative reviews per se are not what people react to. It's the way these remarks are worded and communicated with the "I am right and you all are wrong" and "If you like the album, you are a fool or in denial" and "ARR has lost it since 2005" attitudes that bother me and a lot of others here. If you don't like an album, please tell us why and explain in detail in an intelligent manner. But stop the ego trips and immature gluttony, please. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "light4_u" wrote: > > I second with u pratap, I also think the exact same way. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, > > A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is > > needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not > > be automatically be shot down. > > > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > > ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I > > personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere > > Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you > > have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't > > just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than > > AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is anything to be > > improved (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him going through > > all the unnecessary hate mails. > > > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with > > every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start > > bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only > > use this account for the group... > > >
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Quote:- "I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here..." I agree that we need healthy interactions in this forum but it has to work both ways here, I believe. Not only you, but quite a few members have been complaining that their negative comments and criticisms were shot down by members. But then again, what about members who praise ARR's music? We are named as fools, ingenuine fans, hesitant, afraid to point out our true feelings, etc. If you're saying that negative comments should not be shot down, then calling members who enjoy ARR's music as fools and faking their opinions should not be allowed as well, am I right? I've said this before and I would say it again, Endhiran as an album, is not my cup of tea. Given a choice, I would prefer to listen to Raavanan and Jodha Akhbar than Enthiran. The reason- I don't like trance or techno music. On the other hand, my friends like techno music and they found Enthiran to be awesome. Now, if I were to call Enthiran as soul-less and horrible, wouldn't I be insulting my friends' taste of music? I would and that's not right! But that's exactly what happens here. One of our members here mentioned that he felt like laughing while reading the posts on how others seems to enjoy Enthiran. I thought that was insulting. Just because we don't like an album, we shouldn't be expecting others to dismiss the same as well. And what we regard as wonderful, amazing or true gems of ARR's need not be true for others. A small example- A lot of people here like Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (and I don't mean only Kishore) but it's not my favourite song in the album. I thought Caroline's pronunciation was really bad and the music seems to overshadow the strength of her voice, making it even more inaudible. But I don't consider it a bad song. It's just not to my liking. And knowing that many liked the song, the least I could do is respect the interest of others and voice out my comments in a respectful way. I mean, how would you react if I were to pass the following comments on the song and it's fans? :- "if you think this song is good, you haven't heard to ARR's true gems" or "I'm can't help laughing when I hear that you guys actually like this song" or "This song is soul-less, wonder how you guys can praise it otherwise?" Wouldn't you feel bad? Wouldn't you get angry? Wouldn't you retaliate? Or are you going to call me as whole hearted, eloquent or dynamic for the simple reason that I was "brave" enough to pass such comments on the song? It's sound preposterous even to myself. My point is, there should always be room for criticisms in this forum nevertheless, the right usage of words and expressions should also be given due importance in order not to hurt or disregard other members' feelings. A fan group such as this is not a place to shower pointless praises on ARR, I agree, but it's also not a place to make hateful remarks. Respect is a dying virtue today. Why not try to uphold them at least in this forum? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, A.R. doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is needed. Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not be automatically be shot down. > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him going through all the unnecessary hate mails. > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use this account for the group... >
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I second with u pratap, I also think the exact same way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pratap wrote: > > Nowadays it's kinda scary to post anything negative here. In my opinion, A.R. > doesn't need people to just praise him. A little bit of criticism is needed. > Mistakes needs to be pointed out. Any bad review posted should not be > automatically be shot down. > > Negative reviews are important. But of course, I'm talking about sensible > ones, not the typical music missing in soul, absence of vintage Rahman (I > personally do not recognize this term), no Taal or Dil Se and Khawaja Mere > Khawaja... The list is never ending. Write sensible negative review if you > have to. Those who do not agree, give proper argument (or ignore it). Don't > just get all defensive. Don't keep replying: "Oh yeah, you know better than > AR". As we all know, AR reads our posts. If there is anything to be improved > (if there is), this would be helpful. Instead of him going through all the > unnecessary hate mails. > > I'm just writing this because recently (since 2007, when I joined), with > every new releases someone will post a negative review and the rest start > bashing that person. Let's have some healthy interactions here... > > > So, peace guys. Sorry about the lecture. Nobody likes free advices :) > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 > http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use > this account for the group... >
