Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
Taimur, Very nice sportive reply... :).. Enjoying all the conversation in this email posting. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > except the expression that " i wasted money on this" i think the rest of > immature description has been directed towards me wow AJ keep it up. > > but the titles should be like this for so called mature, >  1) hesitant and fearful approach so that one could escape wrath of the > group > > > for so called immature, > 2) whole hearted, eloquent, dynamic and realistic approach ( me , kishore > and only few others come in it ) . thats how it should be friend. > > regards, > > taimur > > --- On Sun, 8/22/10, Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > From: Ravi Alagappan > Subject: Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:58 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > That's real nice comparison of Maturity Vs Immaturity taken from the > examples of our group emails. > A Must read for everyone. > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:26 AM, AJ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing > disappointment and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical > examples as a whole but with real life expressions from the past from this > group and elsewhere contained within. > > > > > Mature: > > "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I > just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of > film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be listening > to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I like. A lot > of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, it's just not > the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that Rahman's music is > a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with the trend, but I do > miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, although I admit he has > done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful songs recently in other > albums. There are a couple of songs in this album that could grow over time > and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the album and how he has > experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect emotionally. I hope > I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as > creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been > disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed > before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate > fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" > > > > > Immature: > > "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his > technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts > my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's > lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How > can he do this? Doesn't he know what his fans want? We want the young, > 1990's Rahman backYES...the one that made SOULFUL and MELODIOUS > compositions and touched you. Come on, guys, just admit ityou know for a > fact that the Rahman we first fell in love with is not with usthis is > someone else. Those who like this album only like it because of the name > "Rahman" on it.if it were composed by anyone else, you would be shooting > it down. Come one guys, you all know I'm right, you just have to admit it to > yourself. Stop pretending and trying to like this music when you really > don't" >
Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
well written. I can just say the same words and label it as a "serious fan" reaction Vs "casual listener" reaction. From: AJ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 7:56:47 PM Subject: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing disappointment and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical examples as a whole but with real life expressions from the past from this group and elsewhere contained within. Mature: "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be listening to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I like. A lot of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, it's just not the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that Rahman's music is a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with the trend, but I do miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, although I admit he has done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful songs recently in other albums. There are a couple of songs in this album that could grow over time and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the album and how he has experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect emotionally. I hope I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" Immature: "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How can he do this? Doesn't he know what his fans want? We want the young, 1990's Rahman backYES...the one that made SOULFUL and MELODIOUS compositions and touched you. Come on, guys, just admit ityou know for a fact that the Rahman we first fell in love with is not with usthis is someone else. Those who like this album only like it because of the name "Rahman" on it.if it were composed by anyone else, you would be shooting it down. Come one guys, you all know I'm right, you just have to admit it to yourself. Stop pretending and trying to like this music when you really don't" Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
Wow, Taimur, you're a genius! You actually noticed! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > except the expression that " i wasted money on this" i think the rest of > immature description has been directed towards me wow AJ keep it up. > > but the titles should be like this for so called mature, >  1) hesitant and fearful approach so that one could escape wrath of the > group > > > for so called immature, > 2) whole hearted, eloquent, dynamic and realistic approach ( me , kishore > and only few others come in it ) . thats how it should be friend. > > regards, > > taimur > > --- On Sun, 8/22/10, Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > From: Ravi Alagappan > Subject: Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:58 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > That's real nice comparison of Maturity Vs Immaturity taken from the > examples of our group emails. > A Must read for everyone. > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:26 AM, AJ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing > disappointment and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical > examples as a whole but with real life expressions from the past from this > group and elsewhere contained within. > > > > > Mature: > > "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I > just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of > film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be listening > to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I like. A lot > of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, it's just not > the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that Rahman's music is > a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with the trend, but I do > miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, although I admit he has > done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful songs recently in other > albums. There are a couple of songs in this album that could grow over time > and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the album and how he has > experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect emotionally. I hope > I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as > creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been > disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed > before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate > fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" > > > > > Immature: > > "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his > technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts > my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's > lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How > can he do this? Doesn't he know what his fans want? We want the young, > 1990's Rahman backYES...the one that made SOULFUL and MELODIOUS > compositions and touched you. Come on, guys, just admit ityou know for a > fact that the Rahman we first fell in love with is not with usthis is > someone else. Those who like this album only like it because of the name > "Rahman" on it.if it were composed by anyone else, you would be shooting > it down. Come one guys, you all know I'm right, you just have to admit it to > yourself. Stop pretending and trying to like this music when you really > don't" >
Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
But think about it this way. 1 ) Sensible approach. it comes naturally if you understand that there are thousands of types of music and many of those may not be liked by all. It is also taking into consideration of all the other fans who liked the music. Because it offends our sense of music when you say AR Rahman hasn't created great music since 2005. 2) Overly emotional, stubborn and immature approach. characteristics - Usage of exaggerated words, somehow believing that being out-spoken is some sort of intellectual quality that is very rare. also thinking that the whole world should agree with me. Also, a confession. My first mail to this group was the stupidest thing I ever wrote. it was way back in 2003, i think. I posted something about the songs I didn't like and called them bad songs. and it also includes songs that you love ( Urvvasi urvvasi, thee thee etc..). And, I tried to convince the rest of the people that I was right. You might find it in the archives. something I am not so proud of. As for me, I like you for being honest about what you think. But you don't have to talk about that every time a CD releases. try to understand that there are people getting offended because you sort of religiously bash every album that comes out, even though it may not be what you meant. Taimur, try to make that little adjustment in your mails and I guarantee you, that your opinions will be noticed and even agreed by a lot of us (including me) it's only a matter of picking the right words. why don't you re-read the mails before you hit the send button. analyze your own thought and pick the right words to express them without offending the rest of the community. give it a try, brother. won't cost you a thing. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > > except the expression that " i wasted money on this" i think the rest of > immature description has been directed towards me wow AJ keep it up. > > but the titles should be like this for so called mature, > 1) hesitant and fearful approach so that one could escape wrath of the > group > > > for so called immature, > 2) whole hearted, eloquent, dynamic and realistic approach ( me , kishore > and only few others come in it ) . thats how it should be friend. > > regards, > > taimur > > --- On *Sun, 8/22/10, Ravi Alagappan * wrote: > > > From: Ravi Alagappan > Subject: Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:58 AM > > > > > That's real nice comparison of Maturity Vs Immaturity taken from the > examples of our group emails. > > A Must read for everyone. > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:26 AM, AJ > http://mc/compose?to=purev...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing disappointment > and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical examples as a > whole but with real life expressions from the past from this group and > elsewhere contained within. > > Mature: > "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I > just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of > film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be > listening to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I > like. A lot of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, > it's just not the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that > Rahman's music is a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with > the trend, but I do miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, > although I admit he has done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful > songs recently in other albums. There are a couple of songs in this album > that could grow over time and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the > album and how he has experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect > emotionally. I hope I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as > creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been > disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed > before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate > fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" > > Immature: > "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his > technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts > my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's > lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How > can h
Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
except the expression that " i wasted money on this" i think the rest of immature description has been directed towards me wow AJ keep it up. but the titles should be like this for so called mature, 1) hesitant and fearful approach so that one could escape wrath of the group for so called immature, 2) whole hearted, eloquent, dynamic and realistic approach ( me , kishore and only few others come in it ) . thats how it should be friend. regards, taimur --- On Sun, 8/22/10, Ravi Alagappan wrote: From: Ravi Alagappan Subject: Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:58 AM That's real nice comparison of Maturity Vs Immaturity taken from the examples of our group emails. A Must read for everyone. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:26 AM, AJ wrote: I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing disappointment and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical examples as a whole but with real life expressions from the past from this group and elsewhere contained within. Mature: "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be listening to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I like. A lot of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, it's just not the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that Rahman's music is a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with the trend, but I do miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, although I admit he has done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful songs recently in other albums. There are a couple of songs in this album that could grow over time and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the album and how he has experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect emotionally. I hope I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" Immature: "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How can he do this? Doesn't he know what his fans want? We want the young, 1990's Rahman backYES...the one that made SOULFUL and MELODIOUS compositions and touched you. Come on, guys, just admit ityou know for a fact that the Rahman we first fell in love with is not with usthis is someone else. Those who like this album only like it because of the name "Rahman" on it.if it were composed by anyone else, you would be shooting it down. Come one guys, you all know I'm right, you just have to admit it to yourself. Stop pretending and trying to like this music when you really don't"
Re: [arr] Mature vs. Immature ways of expressing disappointment
That's real nice comparison of Maturity Vs Immaturity taken from the examples of our group emails. A Must read for everyone. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:26 AM, AJ wrote: > > > I want to present a contrast between two ways of expressing disappointment > and dislike over a Rahman album. These are just hypothetical examples as a > whole but with real life expressions from the past from this group and > elsewhere contained within. > > Mature: > "You know I really tried hard to give Rahman's latest album a chance, but I > just couldn't get into it. Rahman really gave apt music for this type of > film and I'm sure the music will gel well on screen, but I won't be > listening to this album too much. It's just not the type of music that I > like. A lot of my friends love it and that's just their taste, but for me, > it's just not the type of music I can relate to well. I've noticed that > Rahman's music is a lot more synth oriented these days, which is going with > the trend, but I do miss the more acoustic oriented albums from the past, > although I admit he has done quite a few beautifully acoustic and soulful > songs recently in other albums. There are a couple of songs in this album > that could grow over time and I can see Rahman's creative brilliance in the > album and how he has experimented in a new direction, but I couldn't connect > emotionally. I hope I like the next album and I know that ARR is still as > creatively strong as ever despite me not liking his latest. I've been > disappointed before and I will be disappointed again, but I have been amazed > before and I will be amazed again! Such are the ways of being a passionate > fan of a geniusly progressive and ever dynamic and bold artist that is ARR!" > > Immature: > "What the heck did Rahman just do? Did he just give the score to his > technicians and arrangers and just put his name for credit? The music hurts > my ears! I wasted money on this! Rahman has truly lost it. Actually, he's > lost it the past 5 yearsnot a single song that I am impressed with. How > can he do this? Doesn't he know what his fans want? We want the young, > 1990's Rahman backYES...the one that made SOULFUL and MELODIOUS > compositions and touched you. Come on, guys, just admit ityou know for a > fact that the Rahman we first fell in love with is not with usthis > is someone else. Those who like this album only like it because of the name > "Rahman" on it.if it were composed by anyone else, you would be shooting > it down. Come one guys, you all know I'm right, you just have to admit it to > yourself. Stop pretending and trying to like this music when you really > don't" > > >
